Ah yes sparrow! Unfortunately I know all the ones who man the carts near me....so I look forward to a time when I see a cart in an area I dont know....
stuckinarut2
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Why do we speak out once we learn TTATT?? Because the Society TRAINED us to do so!
by stuckinarut2 ini was just thinking about how the gb / society hates it when people like us dare to speak up or mention anything negative about the society.. they try and demean us, or colour witnesses view of anyone who leaves - especially if we speak up!
we know the sort of rhetoric they have been spewing forth over the last few years.. but the gb needs to face the fact that we speak out because we have been trained to do so by them!
they have used scriptural passages to encourage us repeatedly to "preach with boldness"(acts 4:29-31 eph 6:19).
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"Are you humble enough to admit you were wrong?"
by stuckinarut2 inthat is a question i want to calmly and politely ask a witness next time i interact with them.
perhaps at a cart.. "the bible says we should be humble.
may i ask, are you humble enough to admit you were wrong on things you believe?
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stuckinarut2
Great point wake me! Witnesses are there to preach AT, not have an actual discussion.
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New Light
by Lost in the fog inam i the only one who can't reconcile new light with the light gets brighter?
if it matters at all.
i bring a candle into my house and light it.
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stuckinarut2
Yes. Good point.
Welcome to our community too by the way! Nice to have you here!
The very notion of "light getting brighter" is ridiculous. Especially so if the thing illuminated actually changes. The GB have changed things so much that doctrines of the past are not even a shadow of what they once were!
To expand on your great illustration, if lighting a new candle inside your house makes your furniture change from a lounge into a fridge, then there is a bigger issue at play!
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Why do we speak out once we learn TTATT?? Because the Society TRAINED us to do so!
by stuckinarut2 ini was just thinking about how the gb / society hates it when people like us dare to speak up or mention anything negative about the society.. they try and demean us, or colour witnesses view of anyone who leaves - especially if we speak up!
we know the sort of rhetoric they have been spewing forth over the last few years.. but the gb needs to face the fact that we speak out because we have been trained to do so by them!
they have used scriptural passages to encourage us repeatedly to "preach with boldness"(acts 4:29-31 eph 6:19).
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stuckinarut2
I was just thinking about how the GB / Society hates it when people like us dare to speak up or mention anything negative about the Society.
They try and demean us, or colour Witnesses view of anyone who leaves - especially if we speak up! We know the sort of rhetoric they have been spewing forth over the last few years.
But the GB needs to face the fact that we speak out BECAUSE we have been TRAINED to do so by them! They have used scriptural passages to encourage us repeatedly to "preach with boldness"(Acts 4:29-31 Eph 6:19). To "save people" . To "preach urgently" (2 Tim 4:2) etc.
The bible speaks of TRUTH as being a "fire within our bones" (Jer 20:9) that spurs us to share TRUTH!
So when the GB or JWs in general object to us sharing TTATT (The truth about the truth), it really is their own fault!
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"Are you humble enough to admit you were wrong?"
by stuckinarut2 inthat is a question i want to calmly and politely ask a witness next time i interact with them.
perhaps at a cart.. "the bible says we should be humble.
may i ask, are you humble enough to admit you were wrong on things you believe?
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stuckinarut2
Fair enough. Good points.
Witnesses are so arrogant and CONVINCED they could not possibly ever be wrong...so I suppose its a moot point.
I will try it one day though with ones I know. Ones I was once close friends with!... Very mildly and very calmly, in a respectful and sincere manner...
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"Are you humble enough to admit you were wrong?"
by stuckinarut2 inthat is a question i want to calmly and politely ask a witness next time i interact with them.
perhaps at a cart.. "the bible says we should be humble.
may i ask, are you humble enough to admit you were wrong on things you believe?
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stuckinarut2
That is a question I want to calmly and politely ask a witness next time I interact with them. Perhaps at a cart.
"The bible says we should be Humble. May I ask, are you humble enough to admit you were wrong on things you believe? Would you be humble enough to examine this?"
I wonder how that would go?
Then introduce one or two points only to them about the Societies beliefs or practices...
Thoughts?
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The Seven Trumpets
by Jehovah lol inis it still watchtower dogma that the seven trumpets of revelation refer to seven conventions in the 1920s?
would many jws these days even be aware of this?
i find it so amusing that seven little conventions in the distant past, almost a century ago, could be equated with such an iconic biblical passage.
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stuckinarut2
Hey pomo6780, be careful...the writing committee may simply cut and paste your comment and release it as "new light"!
You have just made their task easier! Heha🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺😉
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Whole families leaving the Org has increased
by pomo6780 ini have noticed in the uk a few families i used to know while in the borg have exited together.
some include former elders and ministerial servants.
i observed on social media pages that the kids have 'worldly' boyfriends and girlfriends and they look so much happier than they did in the org.
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stuckinarut2
Haha @wake me! Great screen shot from that appealing propaganda video!
Yes, apparently the second a witness leaves, their life simply falls apart.....because it's impossible to be happy without being a Jw......
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The New JWdom - Vew of Older Publications? (and other related questions)
by Magnum ini feel that there aren’t many of that type anymore, but there have to be some – mostly old-timers.
how do they study?.
when i was active, i collected all the old publications i could find.
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stuckinarut2
Great Thread!
Yes, as I may have mentioned before, it was around 6 or 7 years back that the coordinator told us to gather all the books older than 1980 from the KH library during a work day.
He told us to throw them all away on the rubbish pile that was to be taken to the tip.
When I objected to "this destruction of our rich spiritual heritage", he became irate and stated that this was a direction from the local bethel branch office (which he was a bethel elder at too btw)
Rather than throw them, I stashed them under the hall in a box, and over time read SO MANY. It was this that started my awakening process!
Now I see why Bethel wanted the books destroyed! Reading all that stuff was enough to confirm that this religion was based on CRAZY!
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The end of an era ......
by snare&racket ini have written some time ago, about how the religion i grew up in no longer exists.
i was an 80’s jw kid who became a pioneer then a bethelite.
they have new meetings, new elder roles, new acronyms, new core teachings, new songs and even a new bible.
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stuckinarut2
Nice pic! Let it burn!