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  Is he interested?

  by Sunnybear in

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  2. relationships

  i met a wonderful man on match.com several months ago.

  on our first date, there was amazing chemistry and we ended up having sex.

  it was not planned, it just happened.

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  stuckinarut2

  In addition to all that others have written, I can add this:

  JW relationships are inherently unhealthy anyway. Why?

  Because they are like living with a constant third person (the org) in the relationship! Imagine never being able to REALLY become a partnership, when there is a nosey, prying, intrusive third 'person' interfering!

  It is enough that the bible speaks about a "three fold chord" in a marriage! That actually means that there is an inappropriate third entity sticking their nose where it doesn't belong!
  
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  Special Pioneer Vow Of Obedience And Poverty Contract - Is This Legit?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  somebody posted the contract on exjwreddit: https://i.redd.it/1u8808gy6ni01.jpg.

  it appears to be signed by howie ernest rutledge.

  im assuming this is howie rutledge tran, former assistant to the gb?.

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  stuckinarut2

  I had to sign something like that also in 1994 when I entered Bethel.

  It was STRESSED to us that we could not do any secular work while at Bethel (except on our holidays) We only got 1 day holiday for every month worked. ie so 12 days in total each year.

  I did not have family with money to support me, so I had to use all my vacation days to do work window cleaning just to pay the expenses of running a car. (We got a small vehicle allowance but it wasn't enough to cover costs) And we couldn't live without a car here in that part of Sydney

  But some Bethelites had secret jobs after hours (like in a petrol station). When it was found out, they would be severely disciplined.

  It all seems so culty and high-control now. But back then we thought it was normal!
  
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  Cookthebooks--Here is your Leaked Elder Videos!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  cookthebooks:.

  there are several leaked elder videos in the zipped file.

  use 7-zip or whatever program you use to unzip the folder.. https://we.tl/p41inlwgxa.

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  stuckinarut2

  Thanks Atlantis!

  (And thanks to whoever leaked these to you)

  I just watched the one with Splane! Arghh...the smarmy tone he uses is so condescending!
  
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  The laziness of JW parents....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it struck me that the society has created a culture of lazy jw parenting.. rather than parents being there to guide and direct and help their children through all stages of life, the gb / society has become the "go-too" for everything.. if the child has an issue, there is a wt article for that.. does the child need help with something else?

  ah, there is a caleb and sophia cartoon for that.. what about that other topic?

  ah, there is a book for that.. so rather than being present parents, the average jw parent simply outsources their parenting to the organization!

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  stuckinarut2

  JWFACTS: Watchtower doesn't want parents thinking. Just give your child an ipad, get the child to watch the same piece of propaganda hundreds of times until they are too indoctrinated to ask tricky questions.

  Great point indeed Paul. Your post is so very spot on!
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  Shocking

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  their version of helping people.

  totally shocking.

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  stuckinarut2

  Thanks for posting those excellent scriptures Ding and TTDTT.

  Very appropriate to highlight the appalling conduct of the society!
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  Try Not To Vomit When You Read Todays Text

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  tuesday, february 27. let the elders who preside in a fine way be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard in speaking and teaching.​—1 tim.

  5:17.. those related to us in the faith certainly merit honor and respect.

  this is especially true of the elders who are taking the lead.

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  stuckinarut2

  Good point STADD! Yes, by flattering such elders, they become enamoured with their standing as big fish in a small bowl.

  Also, good point Morph. In fact, how often have the GB approved articles with pictures or diagrams showing the 'theocratic hierarchy' starting at Jehovah, then Jesus, then through to the GB and Elders etc....

  So, while they may say "don't praise such ones" their own literature says the opposite.

  No wonder the average witness has a hard time knowing how to act or respond!
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  The laziness of JW parents....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it struck me that the society has created a culture of lazy jw parenting.. rather than parents being there to guide and direct and help their children through all stages of life, the gb / society has become the "go-too" for everything.. if the child has an issue, there is a wt article for that.. does the child need help with something else?

  ah, there is a caleb and sophia cartoon for that.. what about that other topic?

  ah, there is a book for that.. so rather than being present parents, the average jw parent simply outsources their parenting to the organization!

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  stuckinarut2

  Ttdtt! Your comment is very interesting too!

  I hadn't thought of it that way, but you have a good point! Witness marriages are lazy in that sense, as they just wait on the new system to fix everything!

  Interesting observation you made.
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  Younger Witnesses less fanatical or fundamental

  by optimisticskeptic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am a born in jw for over 30 years now and have been in various positions in the organization.

  now i'm guessing most of us recognize that older generations tend to be more fundamental and less reasonable when it comes to their outlook and beliefs.

  i find this to mirror the differences you see outside of the organization as well (older people less tolerant of other religions, newer technology, lgbt, etc.).

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  stuckinarut2

  Very true observation!

  Yes, I'm proud of the fact that the younger generation as a whole is more reasonable and open minded.

  Nice thread.
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  Ryde ( I o Wight UK ) KH now a vets.

  by stan livedeath in

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  stuckinarut2

  I can hear it now from a small back room: "BAD BOY. NO! DONT TOUCH THAT!"

  Oh, that was while it was a kingdom hall sorry!
  
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  Did You Ever Find The Theolgy of JWs Reasonable?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was a young man growing up in the religion, i would try to defend whatever the understanding of a doctrine was.

  i won a lot of arguments based on the idea that i knew better than anyone i was talking to and defended myself admirably.

  (lol)....eventually, i realized i was in a cult but for many years i was a believer and i had faith that the gb knew more that i could understand..

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  stuckinarut2

  Yes!

  I thought it was all true...even when explaining it to others.

  BUT, there came a point in life when suddenly I asked myself WHY is it true...and then the house of cards fell down as I looked critically at it all!

  Now I simply cannot believe I used to think it was all true! How was I so deluded??