cognitive dissonance.
a term i came to learn about after waking up as i'm sure many of us here did.
i was thinking of how this condition is similar to the proverbial glass prison, how jw are unknowingly confined by the walls of their belief while observing life around them but are truly captives to a concept as ray put it.. .
Nice post NF!
Yes, they think they are free...but in reality they are trapped.
I posted a pic on Instagram a few weeks back with a picture of JWs at a convention. It had a caption that said
None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free
well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).
we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).
so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.
Thank you all again.
Really insightful comments!
i am really disturbed by some methods that jw family members try and use to emotionally manipulate us back into the organization.. one of our fellow posters here has had a family member send several photos of them as a child either out witnessing, and at an assembly.. no words - just those pictures.. it seems such an infantile and manipulative technique to employ?!.
do they think that we will all simply ignore the logical and factual reasons we no longer attend, just because we see some sentimental picture?
do they not see that this actually may reinforce our understanding that we were raised as children in a high-control religious group where we had to please our parents.
Brilliant comments OneEyedJoe!
i was talking to my sister in law the other day about death, and i mentioned something about the afterlife, i don’t remember what i said but it was nothing shocking .
but she squealed, “we don’t believe in the afterlife!
!” and i reasoned, well we kinda do...life after death is the after life..and she just insisted no no it’s not the same thing.
@wake me, that is probably the BEST thing I have heard for ages! Brilliant technique!
I am in awe right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sexual-abuse-children-beliefs-rules.html.
Bumping this thread for any who missed it the first time around
well, i got to see the final day of this years regional convention.and i saw something that disturbs me.. the final, "summing up review" video.
it disturbs me because it was so well done.
(i wish i could remember the title of the song), to the strains of a solo vocalist singing in a fine "irish tenor", we see the actors from the previous videos of the last few days all assembling together in a clearing.
This is so disturbing!
Can someone find a video of the actual convention clip to embed on this thread?
Ive seen it somewhere else, but cant work out how to embed it here.
The paranoia of the Society is really going to extremes
well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).
we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).
so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.
Wow!
I am so appreciative of all these comments everyone! Thank you!
And to have Unstuck also comment here is priceless! What an amazing gift it is to have one's spouse and best friend out of the cult with me. I know that so many here have not had this positive opportunity - and my heart goes out to you. I see that this puts everything into perspective.
i am really disturbed by some methods that jw family members try and use to emotionally manipulate us back into the organization.. one of our fellow posters here has had a family member send several photos of them as a child either out witnessing, and at an assembly.. no words - just those pictures.. it seems such an infantile and manipulative technique to employ?!.
do they think that we will all simply ignore the logical and factual reasons we no longer attend, just because we see some sentimental picture?
do they not see that this actually may reinforce our understanding that we were raised as children in a high-control religious group where we had to please our parents.
Wow Zeb! your description of "Dragon-Class" is priceless!
The person in question that prompted my post IS indeed a "dragon"...
well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).
we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).
so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.
WOW!
Thank you all so very much for your genuine comments!
I appreciate it more than you will know.
You know, I had thought I was well past all of this. Like really passed it.
Maybe I am just feeling it this week for some reason.
But yes. No more "pearls before swine." There will be more reminders to myself that "the windscreen is bigger than the rear-view mirror"
Love to you all!
i am really disturbed by some methods that jw family members try and use to emotionally manipulate us back into the organization.. one of our fellow posters here has had a family member send several photos of them as a child either out witnessing, and at an assembly.. no words - just those pictures.. it seems such an infantile and manipulative technique to employ?!.
do they think that we will all simply ignore the logical and factual reasons we no longer attend, just because we see some sentimental picture?
do they not see that this actually may reinforce our understanding that we were raised as children in a high-control religious group where we had to please our parents.
I am really disturbed by some methods that JW family members try and use to emotionally manipulate us back into the organization.
One of our fellow posters here has had a family member send several photos of them as a child either out witnessing, and at an assembly.
No words - just those pictures.
It seems such an infantile and manipulative technique to employ?!
Do they think that we will all simply ignore the logical and factual reasons we no longer attend, just because we see some sentimental picture? Do they not see that this actually may reinforce our understanding that we were raised as children in a high-control religious group where we had to please our parents. A group where our worth and value as people was linked to our "spiritual" activities??
It is classic brainwashing!
