i haven't seen this posted.. tuesday may 29, 2018 @ 10pm (new york time zone).
cults and extreme belief - jehovah's witnesses.
Sure, there are some things that may have been done differently, but we need to see it all as part of the wave of momentum that is crashing down on the Org.
Every bit of mainstream media coverage adds to the weight of evidence against the Society. Yes, they will spin it as "satanic propaganda" as do all high control cults. But shows like this will help stop new ones from joining, and will puts cracks into the facade for hundreds or thousands of still ins
oh wow...how the gb and the society could learn from this response!.
no victim blaming.
no passing of the buck.
Thanks for posting that update Doubtfull1799!
I saw the ABC news report about these other groups signing up, and then the reporter said "Conspiciously absent and yet to sign up is the Jehovah's Witnesses and uniting church"
The report went on to say that "those groups that dont sign up will have to explain themselves to the public...and it will expose them to a greater legal responsibility"
oh wow...how the gb and the society could learn from this response!.
no victim blaming.
no passing of the buck.
Oh wow...How the GB and the Society could learn from this response!
No victim blaming. No passing of the buck. Acknowledgement of failings, and an undertaking to do better. Appreciation for the ARCs efforts...
http://www.anglicanprimate.org.au/press/anglicans-appreciate-royal-commission/
this youtuber, an exjw and psychologist, may be familiar to some of the old guard.. i'm posting for newer members really.
yet still, despite being out some time, it was a shock for me to realise that some of the crippling guilt i have felt over so much of my life, even long after being awake, was due to the dominant "conditioned response" i felt as a believer - guilt.. guilt that i could never do enough.
guilt that i was responsible for the life of anyone i didn't preach to...anyone i may have stumbled, anything i did that wasn't caring for the needs of others.. even my job i choose to fit in with trying to expunge the guilt i felt at not meeting the needs of others.
That book and quiz sounds interesting too Dub! I'll check it out
this youtuber, an exjw and psychologist, may be familiar to some of the old guard.. i'm posting for newer members really.
yet still, despite being out some time, it was a shock for me to realise that some of the crippling guilt i have felt over so much of my life, even long after being awake, was due to the dominant "conditioned response" i felt as a believer - guilt.. guilt that i could never do enough.
guilt that i was responsible for the life of anyone i didn't preach to...anyone i may have stumbled, anything i did that wasn't caring for the needs of others.. even my job i choose to fit in with trying to expunge the guilt i felt at not meeting the needs of others.
Great thread!
Thanks for sharing this video and your thoughts.
It is so healthy to re-evaluate and analyse why we are who we are.
i don't remember seeing it ever really talked about here but the facebook group with the namesake of this post shut down at the end of march.
it was archived and they weren't clear as to when or if they would come back.
it seemed to come out of nowhere, and i know a lot of people were disappointed.
Great thread!
Agree wholeheartedly!
This community has been my lifeline, especially when waking up and transitioning to "the real life"
Thank you Simon!
it is funny to contemplate how ridiculous the act of shunning "apostates" who leave the org for conscientious reasons is.. so we have been rudely ignored and even abused by jws who :.
1) have been imprisoned recently for dishonest business practices and fraud worth millions of dollars.
2) have been bankrupt several times.
It is funny to contemplate how ridiculous the act of shunning "apostates" who leave the org for conscientious reasons is.
So we have been rudely ignored and even abused by JWs who :
1) Have been imprisoned recently for dishonest business practices and fraud worth millions of dollars
2) Have been bankrupt several times
3) Have cheated on their spouses, and neglected family responsibilities
4) Swear, get drunk and act like fools at events like sports games
I chuckle to myself really to see these ones act so self-righteously and shun ones like us because of slanderous gossip that they hear through the witness grapevine. They don't know why we all really left. Who knows what they have been told through gossip.
Yet, we never judged them, or ignored them when they acted in the ways outlined as above.
anyone else notice this about jw public speakers.
they all seem like clones.
they have the same mannerisms, try to use the same style of speaking, similar jokes, etc.
Yes indeed.
Any of us that tried to break the mould, were quickly made to conform to a particular style.
A small amount of variation is possible- but it is limited.
Once we leave and listen to speakers in all other areas of life, the "Jw style" become so much more apparent
the star has a previous first-look production deal with the network to produce unscripted series following the success of her emmy-winning show “leah remini: scientology and the aftermath.” according to the hollywood reporter, remini will produce a special for the network during the break following season 3 of the acclaimed docuseries.. it notes that jehovah’s witnesses, while based on biblical teachings, have come under fire over the years for similar practices to the church remini left years ago.
for example, practices of ousting or shunning members who have dissenting views, a blanket refusal to participate in politics and government as well as not celebrating christmas or birthdays are all things that the special will reportedly cover.
additionally, the religion has predicted the literal end of the world several times, obviously to no avail.. .
BRING IT ON please!
Every straw will pile up and eventually break the camels back!
if anyone has any ideas or pictures of a tattoo that would sum up being an ex jw please share.
"TTATT saved my life"
With some liberating picture of your choice: maybe handcuffs being snapped open, or chains being broken?
