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  Hello from Illinois

  by Rob206 in

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  i come from a catholic background, but most recently had been with the churches of christ.

  i have contacted my local congregation and will be talking with someone tomorrow, hopefully setting a study up for next week.

  i want to study scripture, but also want to immerse myself in everything jw publishes.

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  stuckinarut2

  The JW.org religion does an amazing job of turning people AWAY from any form of faith in a divine entity (God)
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  Have you ever come across someone on this site or other exjw site that you knew?

  by karter in

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  2 for me 1 from my old congro in the 80's and another that was in the same circle of friends.. karter..

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  stuckinarut2

  I wish! I have thrown out enough clues...and some in our area of the world have awoken I believe...but perhaps they are not on this forum.

  However, I have made some great new friends via this forum!
  
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  Loyalty - Part of the New Personality (S-341a-18-E 5/17)

  by wifibandit in

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  loyalty—part of the new personality (s-341a-18-e 5/17).

  note to the circuit overseer:.

  use this outline for the tuesday service talk from september 2017 through february 2018. you will need to prepare your own 30-minute service talk for use after the watchtower study.

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  stuckinarut2

  Hahahaha!

  The very notion of "dobbing" or "ratting" on a "friend" is proof it is a cult.

  Anyway, that idea the outline says about "reporting them if they don't do so themselves in a reasonable amount of time" did NOT happen in my case.

  The "rat" that reported me for being on "apostate sites" didn't even talk to me! I found out only AFTER the elders all held an "emergency meeting" about me!.

  When I questioned the elder as to why "scriptural procedures were not applied in my case, he replied "Those steps of Matthew do not apply for Apostasy"

  Yep...right...so the Society's procedures trump the Bible's?
  
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  After being in the so-called "Truth" makes me despise all religions.

  by Fader812 in

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  2. beliefs

  after being a jw made me lose trust in religion, from the lies, hypocrisy and greed of this organization made me lose faith completely.

  what does one do after this mind f$%@, what is there to look forward to?

  do i make up my own agnostic theory in head and hope for the best?

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  stuckinarut2

  Great thread.

  "Faith" should not replace LOGIC, FACTS and EVIDENCE.

  It is for that reason that I no longer subscribe to any religious system.

  I thank the WT society in part for helping me to see that all "faiths" are based on FOG (Fear Obligation Guilt) and NOT on evidence.
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  Marrying out of the truth poem!

  by DagothUr in

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  marrying out of the truth !!.

  (author's name removed to protect privacy).

  he or she-- doesn't love jehovah .

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  stuckinarut2

  Thought it sounded familiar Dubstepped!
  
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  Speaking for God: The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Tahoe in

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  very well put together!.

  https://youtu.be/yyxg8klhtve.

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  stuckinarut2

  Brilliant work with that video!

  Excellent montage of clips.

  Thanks for putting all those preposterous clips together in one video!
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  NWT - revised 1984 vs revised 2013 versions

  by Tallon in

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  2. bible

  in the latest 2013 revision the footnote of john chapter 8 states; a number of ancient and authoritative manuscripts omit vs 53 (of chapter 7) to chapter 8, vs. 11.. yet the 1984 revision quotes a similar footnote, however the passage of scripture is included in the text, albeit separately at the bottom.

  this passage of scripture is about the scribes and the pharisees who brought a woman that was accused of adultery before jesus to test him on the punishment to be meted out.

  then came his famous reply; let the one of you that is sinless be the first to throw a stone at her.. i just found it interesting that the wtbts would leave this out in the latest revision.

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  stuckinarut2

  It's not just what has been left out, but what has been added!

  (didn't revelation condemn those who add or take away from the book?)

  In the section called "outlines of the chapter", for Acts 15 they include the term "letter from the governing body". That term has never appeared in the bible, yet the society now includes it. No doubt in an attempt to manipulate the idea of the current Governing Body.
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  Study with an Elder - propose a question.

  by CitizenofEarth in

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  hello there.. as some of you might remember i am keeping my facade up by "studying" with an elder.

  this study however is more of a session where i put hard questions about the org, doctrine and so on, on the table.

  the time has come for the next session in a couple of days, and i have quite frankly lost the will to keep digging up things that just shouldn't be happening.

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  stuckinarut2

  "Brother----, as we know, 'God's people should be neutral in all political issues right? So may I respectfully ask, how did you reconcile the fact that the society were members of the United Nations (the scarlett coloured beast in revelation), and agreed to all their charters, goals, aims and mission statements?"

  "and, how did you feel when you found out that kingdom halls in many south American countries fly the national flag in order to avoid a small monetary fine, while in the past witnesses were persecuted and died for much less?"

  "I am finding it hard to reconcile such issues, so brother-----, HOW do you do so?"
  
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  Got gas pump witnessed this morning.

  by Darkknight757 in

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  so on our way to hospital today i see a car load of jehovah's pull up to a pump a row over.

  i thought to myself, "not now!!

  " we were running late to nicu and of course these dummy's take this moment to drive up to give us some good news.

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  stuckinarut2

  Simply ask "When you learned of the fact that the society were signed members of the United Nations, how did you come to terms with it?"

  Or any one of the hot topics.

  Perhaps if they are a parent:

  "So when you learned about the scores of child sexual abuse cases that were mishandled, and the millions of dollars being paid out by the society, how did you reconcile this in your mind?"

  By doing that, you are already establishing your statement as a FACT, and the only topic is how they handled it. (The reality is, many will not know of those topics, so it will cause mental gymnastics to occur in their minds that they may then go and research later)
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  "A little leaven ferments the whole batch of dough". A way to make witnesses think!?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how can we briefly make a calm, dignified point to witnesses we care about such as family or friends?

  how can we make them think?.

  here are a couple of well known scriptures: (from the revised new world translation.

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  stuckinarut2

  Perry, with respect, not only does the Watchtower have a "gaping hole in their theology that you can drive a London city bus through it", but so too does the bible itself.

  The bible is full of gaping holes. The concept that it is "God's word" is flawed.

  However, for the purposes of opening a JWs mind, those scriptures in my opening post may help establish a groundwork for a discussion to take place that can lead to them seeing that the GB are not spokesmen for an Almighty God...