am i the only one who can't reconcile new light with the light gets brighter?
if it matters at all.
i bring a candle into my house and light it.
Yes. Good point.
Welcome to our community too by the way! Nice to have you here!
The very notion of "light getting brighter" is ridiculous. Especially so if the thing illuminated actually changes. The GB have changed things so much that doctrines of the past are not even a shadow of what they once were!
To expand on your great illustration, if lighting a new candle inside your house makes your furniture change from a lounge into a fridge, then there is a bigger issue at play!
i was just thinking about how the gb / society hates it when people like us dare to speak up or mention anything negative about the society.. they try and demean us, or colour witnesses view of anyone who leaves - especially if we speak up!
we know the sort of rhetoric they have been spewing forth over the last few years.. but the gb needs to face the fact that we speak out because we have been trained to do so by them!
they have used scriptural passages to encourage us repeatedly to "preach with boldness"(acts 4:29-31 eph 6:19).
I was just thinking about how the GB / Society hates it when people like us dare to speak up or mention anything negative about the Society.
They try and demean us, or colour Witnesses view of anyone who leaves - especially if we speak up! We know the sort of rhetoric they have been spewing forth over the last few years.
But the GB needs to face the fact that we speak out BECAUSE we have been TRAINED to do so by them! They have used scriptural passages to encourage us repeatedly to "preach with boldness"(Acts 4:29-31 Eph 6:19). To "save people" . To "preach urgently" (2 Tim 4:2) etc.
The bible speaks of TRUTH as being a "fire within our bones" (Jer 20:9) that spurs us to share TRUTH!
So when the GB or JWs in general object to us sharing TTATT (The truth about the truth), it really is their own fault!
that is a question i want to calmly and politely ask a witness next time i interact with them.
perhaps at a cart.. "the bible says we should be humble.
may i ask, are you humble enough to admit you were wrong on things you believe?
Fair enough. Good points.
Witnesses are so arrogant and CONVINCED they could not possibly ever be wrong...so I suppose its a moot point.
I will try it one day though with ones I know. Ones I was once close friends with!... Very mildly and very calmly, in a respectful and sincere manner...
that is a question i want to calmly and politely ask a witness next time i interact with them.
perhaps at a cart.. "the bible says we should be humble.
may i ask, are you humble enough to admit you were wrong on things you believe?
That is a question I want to calmly and politely ask a witness next time I interact with them. Perhaps at a cart.
"The bible says we should be Humble. May I ask, are you humble enough to admit you were wrong on things you believe? Would you be humble enough to examine this?"
I wonder how that would go?
Then introduce one or two points only to them about the Societies beliefs or practices...
Thoughts?
is it still watchtower dogma that the seven trumpets of revelation refer to seven conventions in the 1920s?
would many jws these days even be aware of this?
i find it so amusing that seven little conventions in the distant past, almost a century ago, could be equated with such an iconic biblical passage.
Hey pomo6780, be careful...the writing committee may simply cut and paste your comment and release it as "new light"!
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i have noticed in the uk a few families i used to know while in the borg have exited together.
some include former elders and ministerial servants.
i observed on social media pages that the kids have 'worldly' boyfriends and girlfriends and they look so much happier than they did in the org.
Haha @wake me! Great screen shot from that appealing propaganda video!
Yes, apparently the second a witness leaves, their life simply falls apart.....because it's impossible to be happy without being a Jw......
i feel that there aren’t many of that type anymore, but there have to be some – mostly old-timers.
how do they study?.
when i was active, i collected all the old publications i could find.
Great Thread!
Yes, as I may have mentioned before, it was around 6 or 7 years back that the coordinator told us to gather all the books older than 1980 from the KH library during a work day.
He told us to throw them all away on the rubbish pile that was to be taken to the tip.
When I objected to "this destruction of our rich spiritual heritage", he became irate and stated that this was a direction from the local bethel branch office (which he was a bethel elder at too btw)
Rather than throw them, I stashed them under the hall in a box, and over time read SO MANY. It was this that started my awakening process!
Now I see why Bethel wanted the books destroyed! Reading all that stuff was enough to confirm that this religion was based on CRAZY!
i have written some time ago, about how the religion i grew up in no longer exists.
i was an 80’s jw kid who became a pioneer then a bethelite.
they have new meetings, new elder roles, new acronyms, new core teachings, new songs and even a new bible.
is it still watchtower dogma that the seven trumpets of revelation refer to seven conventions in the 1920s?
would many jws these days even be aware of this?
i find it so amusing that seven little conventions in the distant past, almost a century ago, could be equated with such an iconic biblical passage.
Great thread.
Well, I guess that since the revelation climax book is now "outdated old light", and I don't know of any replacement book, it's anyone's guess as to what the "official" teachings are now.
Yes, it's downright stupid to think that some inane "resolution or proclamation" made at some 20th century cult convention was the fulfilment of the ancient writings of a crazy mental patient named John on some isolated island....
for me, beyond any shadow of a doubt, it's the extreme shunning policy.. at a recent sunday meeting, i listened to a complete brainwashed sister saying how important it was that we stick to the shunning policy even if it is a close relative.. i just thought.
wtf.
there is a big difference between the brainwashed and the awoken class!.
Sure, shunning is a point.
But I genuinely think that the most damaging thing the society is doing, is whitewashing its past wrong teachings, and not being transparent about its present day scandals such as the mishandling of child sexual abuse issues. This is so damaging, because when a witness FINALLY learns those things, they are HEARTBROKEN AND PISSED OFF that the organisation they thought was Gods channel, is corrupt!
