Posts by stuckinarut2

20

Thanks, but no thanks!

by FadeToBlack in

that was essentially my reply to a recent sms i got from the elder of the group i am supposed to be in, requesting a visit to encourage me and get to know me better.

my wife has been attending english language meetings in warsaw for the last year or so (i have never been) and i think they are getting antsy about where i stand.

i've met many of them at events my wife hosted at our house, but so far nobody has pressed me on the issue of my inactivity.. at one of the events, an elder mentioned that he'd heard i 'had been' a jw for many years and he was curious what first attracted me to the org.

stuckinarut2

Remember, The only power they have over is you that which you allow.

20

Thanks, but no thanks!

by FadeToBlack in

that was essentially my reply to a recent sms i got from the elder of the group i am supposed to be in, requesting a visit to encourage me and get to know me better.

my wife has been attending english language meetings in warsaw for the last year or so (i have never been) and i think they are getting antsy about where i stand.

i've met many of them at events my wife hosted at our house, but so far nobody has pressed me on the issue of my inactivity.. at one of the events, an elder mentioned that he'd heard i 'had been' a jw for many years and he was curious what first attracted me to the org.

stuckinarut2

Yes, great suggestions offered here.

Keep it as short and polite as possible. A comment that allows NO ROOM for a response from them is best.

"Thanks. Very kind of you, but not necessary. Take care"

32

CO working at Walmart

by the girl next door in

it just took me by surprise.

i remember him from a decade or so ago.

he came up with gems like, “weddings are for women, they are not necessary.” also, “if you want to be truly happy, marry an ugly woman.”.

stuckinarut2

So sad...he was used up by the society (although he probably enjoyed the power trip or position he had).

Now he is cast aside by his "employer" to fend for himself...

6

Is it a GOOD thing to be a sheep, or to be wheat??

by stuckinarut2 in

the bible passage at luke 15 speaks about being a "sheep who is lost".

the shepherd looks for and brings the sheep back into the fold.. the passage at matthew 13 speaks about the righteous being like wheat - kept separate from the weeds.. but, there is an inherent problem with both passages!

for what reason are the sheep saved?

stuckinarut2

Further too, the passage at Matthew 13 speaks of the righteous being like "fish". The good fish are "saved". The bad "fish" are thrown back into the sea.

WHY are the good fish kept??

To be EATEN! Not exactly something the fish would be happy with!

6

Is it a GOOD thing to be a sheep, or to be wheat??

by stuckinarut2 in

the bible passage at luke 15 speaks about being a "sheep who is lost".

the shepherd looks for and brings the sheep back into the fold.. the passage at matthew 13 speaks about the righteous being like wheat - kept separate from the weeds.. but, there is an inherent problem with both passages!

for what reason are the sheep saved?

stuckinarut2

The bible passage at Luke 15 speaks about being a "Sheep who is lost". The shepherd looks for and brings the sheep back into the fold.

The passage at Matthew 13 speaks about the righteous being like Wheat - kept separate from the weeds.

BUT, there is an inherent problem with both passages! For what reason are the Sheep saved? For what reason is the Wheat kept separate? TO BE CONSUMED, EATEN OR USED by men!

The sheep is "saved" only to be exploited for wool - or worse yet - to be EATEN by men.

The Wheat is grown and kept apart from the weeds to be EATEN as food for men.

So, is it a good thing to be referred to as these things?

Just a thought...

26

Im Writing An Ex-JW Self Help Book

by pale.emperor in

we all know waking up from the cult and trying to leave is a very scary and life changing experience.

for many it's traumatic and few find the transition easy.

we have to deal with families cutting us off entirely or keeping us at arms length at best, lies being told about us by the organization, ex members gossiping about us and finding ourselves in a world very different from what we're prepared for.. for this reason, i've decided to start writing a self-help book informing jws of what to expect when they leave the org.

stuckinarut2

Brilliant!

Well done PE.

I will happily contribute some funds to your efforts? Have you started a go-fund-me or something similar?

111

Is he interested?

by Sunnybear in

i met a wonderful man on match.com several months ago.

on our first date, there was amazing chemistry and we ended up having sex.

it was not planned, it just happened.

stuckinarut2

In addition to all that others have written, I can add this:

JW relationships are inherently unhealthy anyway. Why?

Because they are like living with a constant third person (the org) in the relationship! Imagine never being able to REALLY become a partnership, when there is a nosey, prying, intrusive third 'person' interfering!

It is enough that the bible speaks about a "three fold chord" in a marriage! That actually means that there is an inappropriate third entity sticking their nose where it doesn't belong!

23

Special Pioneer Vow Of Obedience And Poverty Contract - Is This Legit?

by pale.emperor in

somebody posted the contract on exjwreddit: https://i.redd.it/1u8808gy6ni01.jpg.

it appears to be signed by howie ernest rutledge.

im assuming this is howie rutledge tran, former assistant to the gb?.

stuckinarut2

I had to sign something like that also in 1994 when I entered Bethel.

It was STRESSED to us that we could not do any secular work while at Bethel (except on our holidays) We only got 1 day holiday for every month worked. ie so 12 days in total each year.

I did not have family with money to support me, so I had to use all my vacation days to do work window cleaning just to pay the expenses of running a car. (We got a small vehicle allowance but it wasn't enough to cover costs) And we couldn't live without a car here in that part of Sydney

But some Bethelites had secret jobs after hours (like in a petrol station). When it was found out, they would be severely disciplined.

It all seems so culty and high-control now. But back then we thought it was normal!

12

Cookthebooks--Here is your Leaked Elder Videos!

by Atlantis in

cookthebooks:.

there are several leaked elder videos in the zipped file.

use 7-zip or whatever program you use to unzip the folder.. https://we.tl/p41inlwgxa.

stuckinarut2

Thanks Atlantis!

(And thanks to whoever leaked these to you)

I just watched the one with Splane! Arghh...the smarmy tone he uses is so condescending!

26

The laziness of JW parents....

by stuckinarut2 in

it struck me that the society has created a culture of lazy jw parenting.. rather than parents being there to guide and direct and help their children through all stages of life, the gb / society has become the "go-too" for everything.. if the child has an issue, there is a wt article for that.. does the child need help with something else?

ah, there is a caleb and sophia cartoon for that.. what about that other topic?

ah, there is a book for that.. so rather than being present parents, the average jw parent simply outsources their parenting to the organization!

stuckinarut2

JWFACTS: Watchtower doesn't want parents thinking. Just give your child an ipad, get the child to watch the same piece of propaganda hundreds of times until they are too indoctrinated to ask tricky questions.

Great point indeed Paul. Your post is so very spot on!