Thanks everyone.
And thanks Flipper! Yes, we maintain that we do NOT hold it against any of these people personally. One day they too may wake up, and we will stand by our offer to always be there for them. Our door of support remains open.
well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).
we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).
so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.
Thanks everyone.
And thanks Flipper! Yes, we maintain that we do NOT hold it against any of these people personally. One day they too may wake up, and we will stand by our offer to always be there for them. Our door of support remains open.
cognitive dissonance.
a term i came to learn about after waking up as i'm sure many of us here did.
i was thinking of how this condition is similar to the proverbial glass prison, how jw are unknowingly confined by the walls of their belief while observing life around them but are truly captives to a concept as ray put it.. .
Thanks @wake me! Full credit to you for making this excellent pic!
jws are taught to think in a childish, simplistic and paranoid way.. the ticket to paradise includes a gory bloodfest of unimaginable proportions.
and jws calmly and unquestioningly trust and even look forward to this happening.. what about the morality of this unprecedented solution to mankind’s problems?
(there is evidence in the earth’s crust that noah’s flood never happened so it doesn’t count as a precedent).. sweep all of your problems under the biblical carpet and you know that god will sort it all out by the ultimate act of near total genocide—or not!
Yes, it is simply mind blowing to think that Witnesses try and excuse mass genocide as a "loving act" of God?!?!
Why do we (as people supposedly made in God's image), find the idea of mass murder deplorable? Yet somehow God himself is A-OK with it?!
If I go out and kill a bunch of people now, including children, I would rightly be classed as a psycho and punished. But Jehovah gets to do it, and is PRAISED for it!?
Makes sense to me....(sarcasm alert)
cognitive dissonance.
a term i came to learn about after waking up as i'm sure many of us here did.
i was thinking of how this condition is similar to the proverbial glass prison, how jw are unknowingly confined by the walls of their belief while observing life around them but are truly captives to a concept as ray put it.. .
Nice post NF!
Yes, they think they are free...but in reality they are trapped.
I posted a pic on Instagram a few weeks back with a picture of JWs at a convention. It had a caption that said
None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free
well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).
we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).
so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.
Thank you all again.
Really insightful comments!
i am really disturbed by some methods that jw family members try and use to emotionally manipulate us back into the organization.. one of our fellow posters here has had a family member send several photos of them as a child either out witnessing, and at an assembly.. no words - just those pictures.. it seems such an infantile and manipulative technique to employ?!.
do they think that we will all simply ignore the logical and factual reasons we no longer attend, just because we see some sentimental picture?
do they not see that this actually may reinforce our understanding that we were raised as children in a high-control religious group where we had to please our parents.
Brilliant comments OneEyedJoe!
i was talking to my sister in law the other day about death, and i mentioned something about the afterlife, i don’t remember what i said but it was nothing shocking .
but she squealed, “we don’t believe in the afterlife!
!” and i reasoned, well we kinda do...life after death is the after life..and she just insisted no no it’s not the same thing.
@wake me, that is probably the BEST thing I have heard for ages! Brilliant technique!
I am in awe right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sexual-abuse-children-beliefs-rules.html.
Bumping this thread for any who missed it the first time around
well, i got to see the final day of this years regional convention.and i saw something that disturbs me.. the final, "summing up review" video.
it disturbs me because it was so well done.
(i wish i could remember the title of the song), to the strains of a solo vocalist singing in a fine "irish tenor", we see the actors from the previous videos of the last few days all assembling together in a clearing.
This is so disturbing!
Can someone find a video of the actual convention clip to embed on this thread?
Ive seen it somewhere else, but cant work out how to embed it here.
The paranoia of the Society is really going to extremes
well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).
we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).
so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.
Wow!
I am so appreciative of all these comments everyone! Thank you!
And to have Unstuck also comment here is priceless! What an amazing gift it is to have one's spouse and best friend out of the cult with me. I know that so many here have not had this positive opportunity - and my heart goes out to you. I see that this puts everything into perspective.