I have personally seen brothers in good standing threaten their wives with physical violence. Once, when returning to our cars after field service, a 20-something brother raised his voice and loudly told his wife "SHUT UP OR I'LL KNOCK YOU INTO NEXT WEEK!". She meekly APOLOGIZED to him for making him angry!! This family eventually moved from Corpus Christi, TX to Kansas City, MO, where he was soon made a MINISTERIAL SERVANT.
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Husbands! Smack your wife across the mouth!
by PopeOfEruke ingreat advice received from a close jw relative who we visited last week.
she said that husbands are the head of the family, and if the wife doesn't support him in serving jehovah then he should give her a good smack across the mouth, thats what she deserves.
if only adam had given eve a good smack across the mouth when she proposed eating the fruit, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in now!
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How many exJWs are now pagan? Why?
by Sirona ini was just wondering how many exjehovahs witnesses are now pagan?
of the exjws i've met, quite a few either describe themselves as pagan or pretty much have "pagan" type religious views.. i wonder if it is a backlash against the control of the jws - to choose a religion which has "no rules" as such.
also, is it rebellion?
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gaiagirl
I'm a pagan, because I came to realize that the pagan worldview is closer to reality than the JW worldview. Specifically, I see humans not a separate creation, but as part of a web of existence shared by all living things. Other life forms are not our "inferiors" but our sisters, brothers, cousins, uncles, etc. I also don't see those things which we consider to be "blessings" as coming from some invisible spirit somewhere, but from the material world of which we are made and of which we are part, i.e. our bodies are made of material on loan from the Earth, and fueled, indirectly, by energy from the Sun stored on Earth. The idea of evolution as supported by evidence found in ancient rocks does not conflict in any way with this idea. I also appreciate that pagans tend to accept responsibility for their actions, rather than blaming their own actions on spirits, good or bad.
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Where were you on the a.m. of 9/11/01?
by rebel8 ini was at work -- a manager in a hospital that is the regional treatment center for one medical specialty...region includes nyc.
someone came & grabbed me hard by the arm and pulled me into a room, where i saw every single mgr.
sitting silently watching tv.
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gaiagirl
I was at the bank, and the teller asked if I had heard about the plane which crashed into the World Trade Center. At the time, the second plane had not yet hit, so I thought it was an accidental crash, similar to the plane which hit the Empire State Building (back in the 40's?). It didn't occur to me that someone might intentionally pilot a plane into the building.
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What fall tv shows are you looking forward to watching?
by Dimples inwell, fall is here and it's that time for new shows to come on tv.
what shows are you looking forward to watching?
i marked the ones i want to see in red.
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gaiagirl
I'm looking forward to Nova on PBS, as there is frequently something good there. Also, must confess that I'm expecting to enjoy "Joey" again, even though its not exactly rocket science.
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WHAT DO JWS BELIEVE ABOUT INCUBI?
by badboy in.
not sure if i have spell it right?.
demons who have sex with humans
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gaiagirl
This is one of those incosistencies which I was never able to understand. JW's claim that demons can move objects, fondle members bodies, even have sex with people, etc, but that the demons do not have and cannot materialize a physical body. So what do the demons touch people WITH? Thought waves? Gamma rays? Mean intentions? A "spirit body" which isn't composed of flesh and bone doesn't seem very dangerous, and it can be argued that if it isn't composed of SOME kind of matter, it doesn't exist. I eventually decided that it was just another scarey story to keep the credulous in line.
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Sagan's remark vs '75 yearbook. Invisible fulfillments of WTS prophecies,
by Pole inmost of you are probably familiar with the following quote from carl sagan: .
doctrines that make no predictions are less compelling than those which make correct predictions; they are in turn more successful than doctrines that make false predictions.
one prominent american religion confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914. well, 1914 has come and gone, and -- while the events of that year were certainly of some importance -- the world does not, at least so far as i can see, seem to have ended.
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gaiagirl
Sagan wrote many books, some on topics other than astronomy. "The Demon Haunted World" is about the contrast between science and superstition/mythology/religion, and why some people prefer one or the other. "Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors" is about the astonishing genetic, biological and behavioral similarities between humans and other primates. "The Dragons of Eden" is a speculative book about how human intelligence evolved over time. "Contact" is one of the best science-fiction novels ever written, with a plot which depends on plausible human interactions and real science, instead of flying saucers and bug-eyed monsters. Sagan was one of my favorite authors, and I scoured used bookstores to find everything he has written.
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Are you satisfied with your looks?
by JH in.
is there anything you'd like to change about your appearance?.
i'd like to be 2 inches taller with the same weight proportion.. i'd like to have nicer skin.. i'd like to be a little more muscular.. other than that, i'm not too unhappy with my looks.. all things the new system would have brought me..... .
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gaiagirl
I teach aerobics, and am careful what I eat, so I'm very pleased with my appearance.
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Cave men?
by Lilycurly ini'd love to know how jws explain the discovery of 6000+ year old remnants of cavemen?
i mean, they can explain dinosaurs, but what to they say about the prehistoric men?
i'd ask my jw father, but i want to be prepared first....
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gaiagirl
Cro-magnon people, the ones we are most like, appear in the fossil record only 30,000-50,000 years ago. Neanderthals go back much further, more than 250,000 years. Yet they had fire, made tools, buried their dead with possessions (so apparantly had a concept of an afterlife), and had, on average, slightly larger brains than do modern humans, as well as much more robust skeletal structure. They overlapped in time, that is, both species existed simultaneously for some thousands of years, but eventually Cro-Magnon people replaced Neanderthals everywhere. It is not certain whether Neanderthals were killed by the newer Cro-Magnons, or they just died out. One idea was that Cro-Magnons, and therefore ourselves, represent an immature Neanderthal, that is, one which had not yet passed puberty. Skeletal studies have shown that young Neandertals, including infants, children, and young adolescents, did not yet have the brow ridges, and protruding jaw and general skull shape we associate with Neanderthal. So perhaps something changed genetically which allowed Neanderthals to mature sexually without adopting the full skeletal development which we associate with the classic Neanderthal. This would explain why some features associated with Neaderthals sometimes appear in "modern" humans as rare traits. I have personally seen people with the steeply sloping forehead and brow ridges, although they appeared "normal" in every other respect. Before Neanderthals, there were earlier hominids which appear less and less like us, and having more in common with apes the further back in time one goes. There has been a number of good novels written based on new knowledge of early humans, "Clan of the Cave Bear", by Jean Auel, "The Animal Wife" and "Reindeer Moon" (forgot the author), and "Dawn Land" by Joseph Bruchac.
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Do any Bible passages/stories make you emotional or cry
by Cygnus inabsalom, a complete asshole, met an untimely death, and even though he caused untold trouble to his father, david still wept bitterly over his son, 'absalom,oh my son absalom!
" that one still gets to me.. and at the end of one of rush's more emotional songs, distant early warning (1984), geddy calls out "absalom!
absalom!
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gaiagirl
I feel kind of disgusted when I read of Lot offering his two daughters to a crowd of men who were trying to get into his house, as if they were worthless chattel. Another similar account relates a guy who actually did hand over his servant-girl to a mob, who raped her until she died. Next morning, he collects her body and goes about his way. Yeech.
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What Is The Worst Movie You Have Ever Seen?
by horrible life insonnyboy hated napoleon dynamite .
elsewhere hated deuce bigalow; european gigolo .
my all time worst movie was arnold i saw it in about 1974. had roddy mcdowell.
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gaiagirl
I browsed Amazon.com under films with James Belushi, and found the name of that one, "Retroactive". Yep, time machine and all. On a (perhaps)related note, I had heard many bad reviews of Catwoman, and watched it anyway, and found myself enjoying it, perhaps because it deals with a woman who enjoys male companionship but isn't dependent on some male to "protect" her.