Posts by codeblue

i know full well that being a member on these forums, reading and posting constitute "bad association" by wt definitions, which can land me in quite a bit of trouble.

codeblue

Welcome

You are a highly intelligent person.

When in doubt, don't. This I say in regards to every serious decision you make in life.

You have enough doubts that your mind is telling you don't get baptised. Simply tell your family that you are not ready for baptism. Jesus was 29 before he was baptized. Why would we want to get baptized in our teen years then???

Be very careful if you proceed to talk to the elders.....they will keep calling on you till you tell them to stop. You are in control...it is your life.

Codeblue

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may i say hello?!?

by isthisit in

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hello my name is isthisit and i have a confession to make, i'm an active jw and not happy.

i am a lurker here and have to start posting.

i am 22 and have been "born and raised" as well as being 4th generation.

codeblue

Yes you can say "hello" and welcome

It is hard being raised in the "truth"tm, I know that feeling all too well.

You have found a great place to get the "therapy" you will need to help you cope with the transition, or decision you want to make.

I am personally fading.... (not making vocal about it...just quit the meetings) I have 2 adult children that I have to try to get "out of the religion" but knowing them, as they think like me, you can't just blurt out and say: It's not the truth (tm)...lol

I recommend you read both of Steve Hassan's books about Cult Mind Control....they will give you tips on how to help other family or friends out of a cult...yes...I said "cult"....

keep posting....and reading...

Codeblue

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What Things Were You Shocked To Find Out About, While In The Org.

by Warlock in

these are just 3 things that i was shocked to learn when i was in the org.

they may not seem like big things to some, but they are to me.. 1. speakers at the d.a.

had food catered to them.

codeblue

Seeing the last 10 minutes of the May 2002 Dateline about the pedophile problem in the WTBS. That forced me to see the hypocrisy in an organization that claimed to be spiritually clean and God's only representatives on the earth, when in fact, they were as bad as the Catholic church with their pedophile problem.

Yes, that was quite a "defining moment" for me.

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End Dependent Mind

by EnDependentMind in

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"it is very nearly impossible... to become an educated person in a country [religion] so distrustful of the independent mind.

james baldwin .

codeblue

Welcome

Enjoyed your quote, it is so true!

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UPDATE: Alive and Kicking... ASS

by RichieRich in

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i'm joining everyone from the bowels of the sun princess, a ship belonging to the princess cruise lines.

about an hour and a half ago, we left the port of seattle for alaska.

my grandmother sent me and my grandfather on this trip for a graduation present.

codeblue

What an awesome grad gift!!! What an experience to share with your grandpa....that's so kewl!

(I take it these grand parents aren't Jw's?)

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At a crossroads, need advice

by doinmypart in

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over the last few years i have been trying unsucessfully to get my wife out of the org.

we've had a lot of ups & downs, arguments, and miserable times.

well, my wife has finally told me that she will respect my decision to no longer be a jw, and i can also do what i feel is best for our children in this respect.

codeblue

Well, as a JW wife I was scared to death when my husband quit the meetings. I felt he would divorce me. You know why I felt that is because what is constantly announced that when you quit the meetings you aren't spiritual and you have problems and become "worldly" tm.

So, my husband didn't try to talk me out of anything regarding the religion.. I noticed the lack of love within the congregations we had attended and I was quite tired of it. I would often go alone but soon tired of it as I began to notice the hypocrisy of the WTBS. My defining moment was watching the Dateline May 2002 on pedophiles in the WTBS.

My husband would talk about things as I brought them up. We would have dates on the weekends. We spent time together and had fun!!!

My advice is: be the kindest, loving husband: who can resist that?

Codeblue

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Is life ever the same after losing your parents?

by slimboyfat in

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mine are still alive, but my grandad who brought me up died in 2002. my aunt, who is a jehovah's witness, has not been the same since he died.

i am sure she has depression - my dad also, who is not a jehovah's witness and can't even cling to the resurrection hope.

my grandad was such a great big person that he has left a tremendous gap in the family.

codeblue

No life is not the same. Your perspective changes greatly.

I was 14 when my Mom died. IT left a big whole in my heart, as I was very close to her. Years later about 35 years...if I see a movie about moms and daughers I still cry. She never met the good husband or knew my children.

I was 28 when my Dad died. I remember cleaning out his house with my sisters and feeling like I never had a childhood and felt like an orphan.

As growing up a JW we never learned to grieve properly...their idea was "get over it", you have the new system...hmmmmmm

I recommend grief counseling as well....

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How I discovered the true face of the Governing Body!

by Khufu in

i live in brussels, belgium.

i became a witness at the age of 18. my parents were not quite happy.

my father forbade me to attend more than one meeting a week.

codeblue

Welcome Philip

I really enjoyed reading your story. Hypocrisy is something I can't tolerate either. This is a great place to find people that really appreciate "truth".

Codeblue

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Behind the Scenes: An Elders Point of View

by WTLies in

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i've been a member of this fourm for quite sometime although i rarely post.

i do however, have my story posted on shauns' site http://jwfiles.com/jws-leaving/william.htm i also wrote and article for that site comparing the prophecies of 1925 and 1975. http://jwfiles.com/1925-1975.htm just a little background on me: i served as an elder in philadelphia.

i was the cong sec.

codeblue

Very interesting. Whatever happened to "you received free, give free"? They certainly show hypocrisy in the "double dipping" issue. To think that some families are so strapped, they barely made it to the assembly or convention and then they have to give more?

If Jesus were alive he would be closing the WTBS.