Posts by sloppyjoe2

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What are Some of your best JW Questions they can't answer?

by 1tMakesNoSence in

i made a thread on reddit regarding questions jw's can't answer.

was wondering what you guys can add to it..

sloppyjoe2

JWs teach the reason God allows wickedness is because Satan challenged his sovereignty. This means satan said that man doesn't need God and could rule themselves without him. Didn't the Tower of Babel prove satan right?

Genesis 11:6 Jehovah then said: “Look! They are one people with one language,+and this is what they have started to do. Now there is nothing that they may have in mind to do that will be impossible for them. 7 Come! Let us+ go down there and confuse their language in order that they may not understand one another’s language.”

Didn't God prevent them from accomplishing anything they could?

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This is the man who made it all happen!

by Terry in

william miller.. do you know how important this man has been to your life?

do you know your life would have been entirely different (without a doubt) had he not lived?.

read on!.

sloppyjoe2

The scary part about William Miller is that the Seventh Day Adventist still use the year 1844 as significant prophetic year according to their beliefs. Even after all of this they now have 18 million members. 1914 will be significant forever for JWs now matter how far away we get from that year.

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How long until the "Generation" gets Revised/Dropped?

by Lemonp in

if you don't already know this; the latest revision of the insight book has no mention of the "overlapping generation" bs online library, insight book .

obviously that change will not bee seen by the vast majority of people, so when will this "brighter light" shine through in a wt or assembly talk?

predictions?.

sloppyjoe2

I always thought all they needed to do was say the generation that sees the signs in Matthew 24:29-31 would be the generation that would not pass away. They could say those are the only signs that we are waiting to see still. So we know we are close. Easy button, done.

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How long until the "Generation" gets Revised/Dropped?

by Lemonp in

if you don't already know this; the latest revision of the insight book has no mention of the "overlapping generation" bs online library, insight book .

obviously that change will not bee seen by the vast majority of people, so when will this "brighter light" shine through in a wt or assembly talk?

predictions?.

sloppyjoe2

You guys need to look at the Seventh Day Adventist. Most of us know that William Miller took the day for a year principle and predicted the end to happen in 1844. Fast forward some decades and through him Russell got the day for a year concept and 1914 from Barbour. Anyway, the Adventist movement now proclaims over 18 million members. Yet here is what they believe about 1844 today in the year 2015.

Heavenly sanctuary (fundamental belief 24)—At his ascension, Jesus Christ commenced an atoning ministry in the heavenly sanctuary. In 1844, he began to cleanse the heavenly sanctuary in fulfillment of the Day of Atonement.
Investigative Judgment (fundamental belief 24)—A judgment of professed Christians began in 1844, in which the books of record are examined for all the universe to see. The investigative judgment will affirm who will receive salvation, and vindicate God in the eyes of the universe as just in his dealings with mankind.

So what was once the "end of the world" prediction has morphed into this now over 150 years later. 1914 will be the same for JWs as 1844 was to the adventist movement. It will always be around just with new explanations.

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August 2015 WT - Let's Review the BS Children

by InjusticeSystem in

found these gems in this edition:.

- keep in expectation!- prepare now for life in the new worldthe passing of time should not cause us to lose hope thatkingdom blessings will be realized.

there are solid reasonsto keep our scriptural expectations alive.

sloppyjoe2

I can't find that quote.....ah nevermind I see someone was quoting a witness. That was gonna be my silver sword quote forever there...

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August 2015 WT - Let's Review the BS Children

by InjusticeSystem in

found these gems in this edition:.

- keep in expectation!- prepare now for life in the new worldthe passing of time should not cause us to lose hope thatkingdom blessings will be realized.

there are solid reasonsto keep our scriptural expectations alive.

sloppyjoe2

Which article has the quote "when the organizations speaks, it is Jehovah speaking"?

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Why would you want to wake up before the 90s?

by John Aquila in

if you were a jw in the late 70s into the late 80s you might have been one of those brothers or sisters that just happened to be in the right kingdom hall and with the right people.

during that time being a jw wasnt too bad if you were able to establish the right connections.

a person could pioneer for a while and be appointed as a ministerial servant in a year or two and within 5 years you could be an elder in your twentys.

sloppyjoe2

As someone pointed out on another thread, the Adventist movement has had failed dates and predictions since the 1840s. They have over 18,000,000 followers present day. Don't think for a second JWs won't be there one day. All they have to do is figure out how other religions hung around and they'll do the same. To this day the seventh day adventist still use 1844 as an important date, even though it was originally a failed prophecy. That tells you the life 1914 will have.

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Why would you want to wake up before the 90s?

by John Aquila in

if you were a jw in the late 70s into the late 80s you might have been one of those brothers or sisters that just happened to be in the right kingdom hall and with the right people.

during that time being a jw wasnt too bad if you were able to establish the right connections.

a person could pioneer for a while and be appointed as a ministerial servant in a year or two and within 5 years you could be an elder in your twentys.

sloppyjoe2

We were certainly much more "determined" back in the 80s growing up. Field service on holidays, during terrible weather were all done without questioning the sanity of it. We had to after all, the end was so close. As a congregation we very close, always having picnics and socializing. The generations teaching in 1995 was the first time I ever questioned anything. I sat there at the study and realized they ran out of time, there was no new information. Maybe it had something to do with everyone as well because the closeness of the congregation eventually dissipated. I used to have so much fun at assemblies, hanging with friends at the meeting, social events with the congregation, but times changed.

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Average Age of this Forum?

by Garrett in

jw
friends

heyo!.

i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.

i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..

sloppyjoe2

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Something tells me 1914...

by Monsieur in

after todays watchtower lesson, and the lessons coming, something tells me bigger and bigger new understandings are coming.

and that it will culminate with 1914. notice how jesus is now coming, and no longer already here.

the current understanding is both, he is here and hes also coming.

sloppyjoe2

I posted about this awhile ago. I think all they will do is change when the last days started. 1914 will remain when Satan was cast down and Jesus took the throne and inspected religions and picked the bible students. But the last days will be changed to a future event say 9/11/01 or whatever so it appears that last days just started and we are very close to the end. But I don't think any changes will be made to 1914 for at least 25-30 years.