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  Trump or Contested Convention?

  by Coded Logic in

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  for those of us who are hillary and bernie fans, which is the better outcome - to have donald trump as the republican's nomination whose unpopular with most americans?

  or are we better off watching the chaos of a contested convention and the party eventually putting up someone weak like john kasic or jeb bush?

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  I find politics interesting as I think anything can happen. The GOP problem is as far as I can tell the republican voters that care to vote in primaries have stated that the majority prefer Trump. If their own party says screw you republican voters we will put in who we want, they would in my belief hand the presidency to Clinton. On the flip side Trump is controversial and has created skeptics on what type of president he could actually be. The GOP only hope in my opinion is for trump to get the nomination and turn into a very presidential candidate. Otherwise, it's Clinton's to lose.
  
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  London Ohio and Indianapolis Assemby Halls to be sold

  by munchausen in

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  announce was made this week that the assembly halls in london, ohio and indianapolis indiana will be sold and a new 3000 seat assembly hall will be built in southwest ohio.

  the assembly hall in london ohio was built in the 70's and is in fine shape - nothing wrong with it.

  the new one will cost around 8-9 million.

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  This whole plan went bust. They tried getting land in Ohio and the community fought it. The community ended up winning. Last announcement I remember was over 5 million dollars has been raised. Guess what happened to that money? It went into the org coffers when they reorganized their building projects that all building projects must go through the branch. Just like that a 5 million dollar donation.
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  Why did Jesus have to suffer?? Something I never thought about.

  by ttdtt in

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  something dawned on me last night.

  jesus was suposed to be a corresponding sacrifice for adam right?.

  a perfect life for a perfect life.

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  I haven't read the above comments but I would also like to point out that Jesus and Adam weren't the same. Adam was "perfect" without the knowledge of good and bad. Jesus on the other hand was perfect with the knowledge of good and bad. Genesis 3:22 says that with the knowledge of good and bad that Adam and Eve would now be like God and live forever, and he wouldn't allow that to happen. Jesus would be like God with that knowledge already. So you had a perfect human without the knowledge of good and bad who sinned, vs a perfect human with the knowledge of good and bad who did it successfully.
  
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  Just in time for Memorial season...

  by OutsiderLookingIn in

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  this is short and quick but maybe it's a seed to plant in the 10 days until the memorial.

  i have talked to jws who tell me their reason for not eating the bread and drinking the cup is because that was only a new covenant with his disciples (and in their wonky extension, the 144,000).

  but i just thought of a few things.

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  As prologos pointed out, both instances Jesus said to eat the bread and drink the wine it was to non anointed Christians. He was telling everyone to do it, not a select number who magically know they're anointed but can't tell you how they know.
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  Is the WT’s Paradise Earth doctrine a delusion?

  by deegee in

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  the wt’s teaching that humans will live forever on a paradise earth will necessitate that given that there will be no more death, then immortal humans will have to be relocated to other planets in order to prevent the earth from becoming overpopulated.. so how many habitable, earth-like planets are there?more and more habitable, earth-like planets would have to become available on a continuous, never-ending basis ad infinitum as mankind’s population grows given that there will be no more death.. the longevity/sustainability of life on these planets will be limited by the fact that the sun serving these planets will eventually die:https://shar.es/1cko6n.

  http://www.space.com/22437-main-sequence-stars.html#sthash.ejbt1xrz.dpuf.

  so immortal humans will have to keep moving from planet to planet.

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  A lion at a party with a beach ball would trump any party I have ever been to, bring it on!
  
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  Partaking of emblems

  by sloppyjoe2 in

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  this year will be my first for by going to the memorial.

  i will get asked by my parents how i can deny jesus even if i don't believe the end is close.

  my thoughts on this are as follows, bear in mind saying it's all make believe is not an option.. i think that jesus intended for everyone to eat the bread and drink the wine.

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  I could have been more descriptive. These aren't my beliefs in the sense I believe they are necessary. But with my fade I have to maintain that I am a "believer" still as doing so has kept me from being shunned so far. My questions were really, is my saying that the apostles weren't anointed but still partook a valid argument for me to make as why I don't attend the memorial? Or are the holes in that argument that a JW could point out.
  
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  Partaking of emblems

  by sloppyjoe2 in

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  this year will be my first for by going to the memorial.

  i will get asked by my parents how i can deny jesus even if i don't believe the end is close.

  my thoughts on this are as follows, bear in mind saying it's all make believe is not an option.. i think that jesus intended for everyone to eat the bread and drink the wine.

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  This year will be my first for by going to the memorial. I will get asked by my parents how I can deny Jesus even if I don't believe the end is close. My thoughts on this are as follows, bear in mind saying it's all make believe is not an option.

  I think that Jesus intended for everyone to eat the bread and drink the wine. Under no instructions by Jesus was there any requirement to be anointed. At the time of the last supper, none of the apostles were of the anointed since that did not take place until Pentecost 33, months later.

  Since I don't go to meetings and am inactive it would be disrespectful to their ceremony and beliefs for someone like me to partake. Someone they believe will be destroyed soon.

  Does any of this seem valid and have merit?
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  Memorial Invitation

  by sloppyjoe2 in

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  how do you faders/inactive handle being asked to the memorial by family?

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  Does anyone go just on this day to keep peace?
  
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  Memorial Invitation

  by sloppyjoe2 in

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  how do you faders/inactive handle being asked to the memorial by family?

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  How do you faders/inactive handle being asked to the memorial by family?
  
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  How did you feel when you found out "the truth about the truth"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so when you first found out specific facts about the organisation, how did you feel??.

  the un membership.

  the way 1914 was calculated from pyramid measurements.

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  sloppyjoe2

  I was a born in and even before the Generations teaching change in 1995 I questioned why God would allow all of this build up for mankind to destroy it. When they changed it in 1995 I was a young teenager and new then and there something was wrong. It gave me the green light in my own mind to look into it. Freeminds.org was the first apostate web site I ever visited. From then on I knew it was all just another religion. No real shock or anger, I just knew it was nothing to be excited over.