Posts by Stirred

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IMPORTANT things for you to think about

by Terry in

things ex-jw's need to know in order to heal and move on.. ***.

1.you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. look at how you are feeling most of the time.

that sense of going nowhere and feeling down is not because you aren't spritual enough.

Stirred

Good post even if a bit harsh.

#11 is very important to me right now and is a big issue for me.

I'm doing what I can day by day and dealing with bouts of depression, anger, regret, etc. I cannot pursue therapy right now due to cost but am working on getting back into work world so that I can afford that and other things and care I need. Meanwhile, the more I do, the more I realize how unacceptable I am to ones I cared so deeply for and how truly shallow their feelings for me must have been.

I hope to be a better friend to all that want to value a relationship with me. Thank God I did extend myself to some non-JW in the area as they are the only ones that seem to want to go forward with a relationship and in support of me. I have not shared with anyone yet where I truly am in regards to JW/WT. I guess I'm still working that out too. It's very painful right now.

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Freaking out a Jehovah's Witness

by jgnat in

as you know, my husband has physically left the witnesses.

he nevertheless clings to many of the beliefs like a protective cloak, and every once in a while i trigger a dissonant episode where my reality clashes with his.

recently he listened in on my work research, a video of a futurist describing the a potential "disruptive change" event in the next fifteen years, as our culture shifts to autonomic (driverless) vehicles.

Stirred

Jgnat,

Yes and any list that proves the signs as stated are not worsening. However, i have very limited time and would appreciate references? My extra time is used looking here, attending classes, reading ISOCF and prepping to find a job/ work and new network of friends in new location.

also, I agree about your understanding about Matt 24:38, but context is that they/ we would be going on as normal when end falla uponn them.

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Last Reminder for TV Program Witness To Murder, Wed., Aug. 20th @ 9PM ET/8CT

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

last notice for a new documentary produced for television on id discovery channel, based on jim kostelniuk's book, wolves among sheep: the true story of murder in a jehovahs witness community.. .

deadly devotion season 2:.

witness to murder.

Stirred

Link to episode 1: http://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/deadly-devotion

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When should you Disassociate yourself?

by happytobefree in

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friends

i have been having discussion with my sister (relative), who is an active witness, about writing a letter of disassociation.

the reason being is that i have not attended the meetings in over a year and it's been 4 years since i have went out in the jw ministry.. i going to try to sum this topic up.

my sister think that i should not da myself because i have not done any immoral act in her thinking.

Stirred

Grateful for this post.

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WTS attends as a NGO to OSCE in July- 4 branches present!

by yknot in

so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.

mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.

here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.

Stirred

I am relatively new here and was looking up some infor related to UN-DPI affiliation. I may just not get it, but I'm not fully seeing how OSCE eeting attendance is like using gym at YMCA. This event was a meeting and I thought we can attend any meeting that could help JWs and or their org. Maybe i just assumed this.

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The Circuit Overseer Visit

by garyneal in

last week, the circuit overseer came to visit my wifes congregation and as usual their patterns change somewhat during this week.

from my perspective, the meetings are held on tuesday and thursday instead of the normal wednesday night during this week and they are more eager to go out in field service.

sunday came and my wife wanted us to attend the meeting.

Stirred

I would love to hear response from CO to inquiry from sincere, unbaptized inquirer, who is not under threat if shunning/df.

I NEVER heard of OSCE....will be looking for confirmation of WT membership. If you know of where to find proof, it would be much appreciated.

Thank you for posting all this.

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APOLOGIST site addresses APOSTATE complaints

by Terry in

this is a guess on my part.

the watchtower society is using guerilla tactics to unofficially deal with apostatesthrough back channels.. .

the bibles view the primary source for this minisite.gentile times reconsidered again, this time using the bible complete article appears in appendix asetting the record straight also sourced for this website.rolf furuli professor at university of oslo who supports 607jehovahs witnesses united apologetics, etc.the watchtower society as a un ngo demolishing the conspiracy theoryjw child abuse policy exposing the myths

Stirred

The site above on NGO is confusing....so much to filter. I remember elder friend's stating it was for a library card. Regardless, we aren't supposed to join YMCA for gym card either.

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Freaking out a Jehovah's Witness

by jgnat in

as you know, my husband has physically left the witnesses.

he nevertheless clings to many of the beliefs like a protective cloak, and every once in a while i trigger a dissonant episode where my reality clashes with his.

recently he listened in on my work research, a video of a futurist describing the a potential "disruptive change" event in the next fifteen years, as our culture shifts to autonomic (driverless) vehicles.

Stirred

A couple months ago in a meeting, the speaker was speaking about the signs. I decided to look up some stats online in meeting to provide answer for my kids and I from worldly stats......i couldn't answer point I had in mind. That incident made me make note to check further And I did on one stat. I have limited time.

I appreciate the working list and find it would be even more useful if sources were quoted for reference.

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First post

by thedog1 in

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friends

this is a very strange thing for me to do.

i have been an active witness for over 25 years.

i currently serve as an elder and i conduct the watchtower study.

Stirred

i really appreciate your post Dog. It was a while ago but still helping others like me.

Leaving Quietly - I see myself in stage 2 and 7 right now.

i've had issues in past and recently. In past, my major initial shock was back in 2008 when I stumbled on info about NGO. I asked elder friends and they told me not to make a big deal of it as it was a library card, but the answers were hypocritical for me but I put aside my feelings for awhile with my internal feeling that the real cleansing was not 1919 but in future toward JWs for there is no way this coukd be ok.

I waited and focused on the good info...tried to apply myself to being good JW andto be awake enough about NGO to never allow myself to overemphasize org over Jesus and Bible. With latest generation "light," tithing, CO stating to stay distant from all weak ones, anuse from members in congregation, etc...I just could not take it anymore as it was...started searching.

i recently read most of Crisis of Conscience. Excellent read. I'm now reading In Search of Christian Freedom.

Metaphorically speaking, I had been okay in my mind with ordering ala carte, but could never order the whole dinner plate anymore. Stay true to your integrity and don't throw everything out in a rush. Sift, test and put aside what you know/test is bad. Keep what is good.

Peace

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Protect the elderly

by defender of truth in

this weeks km is telling elders to arrange for group studies with people in local nursing homes, with instructions on how to word things when speaking to the directors etc.. they are clearly trying to get to people who may not be entirely able to think for themselves or who may lack critical thinking and yet may have money to leave to them.. what can you do?.

well, if you wanted to, write a short and simple letter or email to your local care home, perhaps directly even speak to the director yourself... warn them about the brainwashing and danger of breaking up of families etc.

the km says they should identify themselves as jw's... .

Stirred

I appreciate your effort but I personally habe had to put much off right now as I have too many fires I'm dealing with.

You can put your concerns out there/here, and templates, which are helpful, but eben if no one initialky can come on board with major time dedication, you can do it if you want to. Report on your progress and that could be encouraging.