Posts by Stirred

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My Personal Invitation to the Celebration of the Lord's Evening Meal

by TMS in

9 years ago

by no means is this a heartwarming "experience" illustrating how an ex-jw skillfully "reached the heart" of a current jw, moving them to re-examine their belief system.

that won't be my take on my half hour visit with an elder's wife last sunday.

no one scored points here as is almost always the case in these interactions.. we live at the extreme southern tip of texas, on the u.s.-mexico border in a city of about 200,000. twenty years ago there were 20 spanish language congregations, 2 english.

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Stirred 9 years ago

I can understand her outward appearance. She has on her witness suit of armor. She may very well ponder these things. I'd bet money on it. Why? Because she tarried so long in conversation, showed concern as to why you were negatively affected versus just writing you off and moving on....she really wanted to know in order to help but also perhaps curiosity was growing inyour conversation. If she was aware of facts, she may be in the middle numb point of trying to push off these thoughts or is dealing with inner conflicts with the oft used logic that we should wait in Jehovah to handle this...or that we dont know all the facts and no doubt the medianis blowing this up.

This will ring in her mind no doubt on a regular basis. A neighbor brought out one simole question to me a couple years back when I was feeling already stressed by issues in the workings of the JW culture....he pegged it. I could not disagree or really answer at the time. His comment and question rang in my head regularly till one day I started taking steps to clear my conscience of any dissonance.

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Watchtower is cashing in on China

by nakanozzi in

9 years ago

japanese brother in china recently revealed thatmany wealthy chinese are interested in watchtower’s teaching and donating money.ex-cos and ex-district os are now preaching undercover in china,and, numberes of special pioneers in china are growing !

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Stirred 9 years ago

All the secret ways sound right but we foreign nationals were told to not handle any chinese directly other than very light seeds.... All potential leads were to be forwarded to the local chinese group that we were to have no direct contact with so that if questioned, we could not point them out or possibly lead them to trouble just by our implied association. Many were being followed and tapped so criptic messages amd phone calls were normal. I was given a few lines to practice, but since my chinese was not good, I was to be especially careful. My focus was foreigners working in China.

I reported to branch in HK to meet and get the literature that I would smuggle. Quite a story but will save for another time.

i was given an update on the overall state of affairs in China and was given access to view the special map showing locations of all witness missionaries or groups. It was growing but at the time showed me there was a daunting task ahead, and that the end would not be so soon in order to work such territories. They explained who was directing the work on the ground ...made total sense. I worry saying more could be in any possible way a hardship to some so will leave the rest unwritten for now.

BTW, it took me two years to be approved by HQ to smuggle literature since I was a study with a uniqque position in China. I did this mission as a study and not a baptized one as it took very long for me to get past serious doubts as well as travel schedule kept me delayed.

The incredible experience where I felt recued by Jah from being found out, deported and likely job loss, pushed me to set aside my many doubts and concerns so that I finally was baptized later that year. I was removed from China work abruptly by job after first smuggling job. I hope all in the group are safe. Such sacrifices so many have made there.

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Watchtower is cashing in on China

by nakanozzi in

9 years ago

japanese brother in china recently revealed thatmany wealthy chinese are interested in watchtower’s teaching and donating money.ex-cos and ex-district os are now preaching undercover in china,and, numberes of special pioneers in china are growing !

9 years ago

Stirred 9 years ago

I smuggled literature from Hk to Beijing. Met the underground foreign group...It was growing back then so can imagine it is growing now.

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Have you ever had your oven door explode?

by Ucantnome in

9 years ago

the other day the glass in my oven door exploded and sent glass into the next room, fortunately i wasn't peering in at the time.

about a year go the previous oven door shattered one morning.

the oven was cold.

9 years ago

Stirred 9 years ago

I'd say if it happened near you 4 times, it is statistically significant. Was this in your home again? Is it gas or electric?

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Did any of us ever enjoy meetings?

by stephanie61092 in

9 years ago

this is a legitimate question.

did any of us ever find real joy in being at the meetings?

did any of us ever finish a meeting and think "i feel so enriched"?

9 years ago

Stirred 9 years ago

Aspects. Sometimes yes, other times aspects would try me. I enjoyed feeling I was doing good for self and my kids to learn good values. I did find some very nice friends just before I moved. I hated the constant guilt, snubs of some, and conditionality of the relationships. Through my awakening, I realized some halls were just too negative and that it was a form of abuse to be there. Just too much stress and negative to offset any benefit I may glean. Those few I really wanted to connect with nearly never were apart of my life socially. I realized I had nearly no true friends in 20 years, but was I good friend? I am constantly swamped and need to reach out more. Working on it.

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How many of you are health nuts?

by Harvard Illiterate 411 in

jw
friends

9 years ago

there was/is a sister in my old hall who was a pharmaceutical sales rep and she was a huge proponent of anything in the drug industry.

when someone had a headache, she was the first to say "take an asprin.

" now my husband and i are what you might call old hippies.

9 years ago

Stirred 9 years ago

Most of my adult life i've been a crunchy, organic-loving person. I aspire to have utility bills like you and have ben actively work on it. Plans for a quasi-earthship when I can afford it. Working on improving frugal skills and now I've had cpto cut grocery bill further. i focus on dirty dozen for organic and don't sweat the rest. I do spend much trying getting the organic protein needed.

peace

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Funny things to not do at the Memorial

by rebel8 in

jw
friends

15 years ago

pull out a can of cheese whiz, top the bread with it, and take a nibble.. .

say really loud...."oh, wow!

jesus' body is really tasty this year!".

7 years ago

Stirred 9 years ago

ROFL!!!! Thanks for the hearty laughs tonight! 😆😆

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Closer/death/Funerals

by Leela1 in

9 years ago

hello all i am fairly new to this site even though i have been da since i was 16 years old i am now 35 years old.

i have had very little contact with my family since i left maybe a handful of times over the years.

i thought i put the past behind me and moved on i have 4 amazing kids of my own really supportive partner and great friends who have become my family.

9 years ago

Stirred 9 years ago

Welcome and thank you for sharing. Your story is so painful to read. I wish the psychiatrist or family you moved in with had told child protective services about your parents so that you and your siblings could have been better protected.i have had to learn later in life that it is hard to see a person may have true psychiatric issues who is so close to you. My brother is the cruel one in my history. Since letting him bck in my life for a short time he caused harm to me again and my kids....affecting us emotionally, financially (huge), psychologically...

Read here about Narcissists: http://www.decision-making-confidence.com/symptoms-of-narcissism.html

Read here about Sociopaths: http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html 
That said, you could send a video message, you could send a recorded message to your parents. I agree sending your parents separate messages is a good thing. Perhaps send a letter with picture of your kids to her.

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To Scully--A Tribute!

by Atlantis in

9 years ago

if you are a new person to the board you might want to send scully a pm thanking her for her hard work and dedication.

the boe project owes her for helping it to get started.. example:.

several years ago there was a website called (dirtclod.com) who had the courage to display the boes right out in front of everybody.

9 years ago

Stirred 9 years ago

I am one who was jelped by the BOE letters. The letters proved timad and again to. E authentic amd gavee me the confidence to read and expore further down the rabbit hole and onto freedom for my family.

thank you Scully and all the others involved in helping to bring the real truth to light.

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Faith and Lies.

by sparrowdown in

9 years ago

if you were hooked up to a polygraph machine when you were still an asleep, kool-aid drinking dub and asked if you agree 100% with every single wt teaching (asked as individual questions and collectively), would you have "passed" with no signs of deception?.

i know, i definitely would not have "passed" such an interegation.

i would have tripped up on questions about blood, dfing and non jws being marked for destruction just to name a few.

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Stirred 9 years ago

No I would not. C.D. Was always gling on to varying degrees until it finally exploded and I could not take it anymore.

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