Posts by Stirred

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Last Reminder for TV Program Witness To Murder, Wed., Aug. 20th @ 9PM ET/8CT

by AndersonsInfo in

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last notice for a new documentary produced for television on id discovery channel, based on jim kostelniuk's book, wolves among sheep: the true story of murder in a jehovahs witness community.. .

deadly devotion season 2:.

witness to murder.

Stirred

Link to episode 1: http://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/deadly-devotion

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When should you Disassociate yourself?

by happytobefree in

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i have been having discussion with my sister (relative), who is an active witness, about writing a letter of disassociation.

the reason being is that i have not attended the meetings in over a year and it's been 4 years since i have went out in the jw ministry.. i going to try to sum this topic up.

my sister think that i should not da myself because i have not done any immoral act in her thinking.

WTS attends as a NGO to OSCE in July- 4 branches present!

by yknot in

so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.

mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.

here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.

I am relatively new here and was looking up some infor related to UN-DPI affiliation. I may just not get it, but I'm not fully seeing how OSCE eeting attendance is like using gym at YMCA. This event was a meeting and I thought we can attend any meeting that could help JWs and or their org. Maybe i just assumed this.

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The Circuit Overseer Visit

by garyneal in

last week, the circuit overseer came to visit my wifes congregation and as usual their patterns change somewhat during this week.

from my perspective, the meetings are held on tuesday and thursday instead of the normal wednesday night during this week and they are more eager to go out in field service.

sunday came and my wife wanted us to attend the meeting.

Stirred

I would love to hear response from CO to inquiry from sincere, unbaptized inquirer, who is not under threat if shunning/df.

I NEVER heard of OSCE....will be looking for confirmation of WT membership. If you know of where to find proof, it would be much appreciated.

Thank you for posting all this.

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APOLOGIST site addresses APOSTATE complaints

by Terry in

this is a guess on my part.

the watchtower society is using guerilla tactics to unofficially deal with apostatesthrough back channels.. .

the bibles view the primary source for this minisite.gentile times reconsidered again, this time using the bible complete article appears in appendix asetting the record straight also sourced for this website.rolf furuli professor at university of oslo who supports 607jehovahs witnesses united apologetics, etc.the watchtower society as a un ngo demolishing the conspiracy theoryjw child abuse policy exposing the myths

Stirred

The site above on NGO is confusing....so much to filter. I remember elder friend's stating it was for a library card. Regardless, we aren't supposed to join YMCA for gym card either.

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Freaking out a Jehovah's Witness

by jgnat in

as you know, my husband has physically left the witnesses.

he nevertheless clings to many of the beliefs like a protective cloak, and every once in a while i trigger a dissonant episode where my reality clashes with his.

recently he listened in on my work research, a video of a futurist describing the a potential "disruptive change" event in the next fifteen years, as our culture shifts to autonomic (driverless) vehicles.

Stirred

A couple months ago in a meeting, the speaker was speaking about the signs. I decided to look up some stats online in meeting to provide answer for my kids and I from worldly stats......i couldn't answer point I had in mind. That incident made me make note to check further And I did on one stat. I have limited time.

I appreciate the working list and find it would be even more useful if sources were quoted for reference.

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First post

by thedog1 in

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this is a very strange thing for me to do.

i have been an active witness for over 25 years.

i currently serve as an elder and i conduct the watchtower study.

Stirred

i really appreciate your post Dog. It was a while ago but still helping others like me.

Leaving Quietly - I see myself in stage 2 and 7 right now.

i've had issues in past and recently. In past, my major initial shock was back in 2008 when I stumbled on info about NGO. I asked elder friends and they told me not to make a big deal of it as it was a library card, but the answers were hypocritical for me but I put aside my feelings for awhile with my internal feeling that the real cleansing was not 1919 but in future toward JWs for there is no way this coukd be ok.

I waited and focused on the good info...tried to apply myself to being good JW andto be awake enough about NGO to never allow myself to overemphasize org over Jesus and Bible. With latest generation "light," tithing, CO stating to stay distant from all weak ones, anuse from members in congregation, etc...I just could not take it anymore as it was...started searching.

i recently read most of Crisis of Conscience. Excellent read. I'm now reading In Search of Christian Freedom.

Metaphorically speaking, I had been okay in my mind with ordering ala carte, but could never order the whole dinner plate anymore. Stay true to your integrity and don't throw everything out in a rush. Sift, test and put aside what you know/test is bad. Keep what is good.

Peace

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Protect the elderly

by defender of truth in

this weeks km is telling elders to arrange for group studies with people in local nursing homes, with instructions on how to word things when speaking to the directors etc.. they are clearly trying to get to people who may not be entirely able to think for themselves or who may lack critical thinking and yet may have money to leave to them.. what can you do?.

well, if you wanted to, write a short and simple letter or email to your local care home, perhaps directly even speak to the director yourself... warn them about the brainwashing and danger of breaking up of families etc.

the km says they should identify themselves as jw's... .

Stirred

I appreciate your effort but I personally habe had to put much off right now as I have too many fires I'm dealing with.

You can put your concerns out there/here, and templates, which are helpful, but eben if no one initialky can come on board with major time dedication, you can do it if you want to. Report on your progress and that could be encouraging.

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always wondered if they canceled turning fs time slips in what will happen

by dugout in

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Stirred

I don't understand the claim that FS slips are only proof for tax-free status...... other churches maintain tax-free status and ont need that kind of proof. JW do disaster assistance....but struggle to think of other charitable acts in community. i guess publishing articles that support community issues and offering them free is the main thing.

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PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

Stirred

Service out of compulsion, hmmmm......reminds me of the Bible story of Jonah.

i would say that if you or others are moved to go in service/pioneer and follow through with your word (see example of Jonah) even though you did so under compulsion, then ues, your service counts. i think you'd enjoy it more if you were a "cheerful giver" but I would not discount the good vibesfrom keeping your word or honestly reassessing upfront. Your word and actions reflects who you are. Focus on being the best, true you.

If you do not go in service or report due to conscientiously objecting, as I think is my position right now, you can consider it time to refocus and clear the mind fog an all these matters. Jesus and apostles took time away from people to process, pray, find peace.

Many issues are afflicting me right now but morals and ethics are not. They are the ever-shining bright rightness in the world for me - kindness, mercy, love, truth......

This process is helping me find my voice to add to the courage I feel to say "no" and not have to explain myself to those who do not sincerely care or just want to judge and/or condemn me rather than help me.

As for integrity, I don't see logic in slamming most/all witness due to some individuals having questionable integrity. I'd say all humans have issues......and leave it at that.