I can't help but wonder if the phrase "One nation under God" were to be changed to "One nation under a God if we so choose" how that might affect this issue. Just throwing nuts in with the bolts...What does everyone think?
Mobbie
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20031014/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_pledge_of_allegiance
washington - the supreme court said tuesday it will decide whether the pledge of allegiance recited by generations of american schoolchildren is an unconstitutional blending of church and state.
the case sets up an emotional showdown over god in the public schools and in public life.
I can't help but wonder if the phrase "One nation under God" were to be changed to "One nation under a God if we so choose" how that might affect this issue. Just throwing nuts in with the bolts...What does everyone think?
Mobbie
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please educate me my dear friends, and hold nothing back please-i would rather be prepared than caught off guard.. thanks,.
mobbie
Thank you to everyone who answered-I really appreciate the info!
Mobbie
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please educate me my dear friends, and hold nothing back please-i would rather be prepared than caught off guard.. thanks,.
mobbie
Please educate me my dear friends, and hold nothing back please-I would rather be prepared than caught off guard.
Thanks,
Mobbie
okay...so i'm invited to a baby shower for my daughter-in-law which will most likely be attended by myriads upon myriads of jw's.
i won't go into the nasty details...but they've been married four years now and have another little daughter...their wedding was boycotted by most jw's because she was not baptized yet (but grew up a jw)...and my son was.
so every since the wedding fiasco...they have been pretty much shunned by the jw's...and attend meetings infrequently.
If perchance they were invited to your daughter in laws wedding... Them: "We've missed you....!" (in cooing voice) You: "We missed you at the wedding....! (equally cooing voice) Retort #2: "Well, I was never lost..." Cheers and jeers, mobbie
well, wife got a transfer to bend, or.. this is good - we've been trying to move out there for a while.
we're in ne ohio now.. only problem is....well, *i* don't have a job out there yet!
also, we need to find a place to stay, need to sell our house, have a ton of things we need to get rid of..... uggghhhh....never moved this far before.
Welcome to ORYGUN! Whatever you do, be absolutely sure to say it right...as spelled above. NEVER say Oregone....!!! You will LOVE Bend/Redmond/Sisters/LaPine/Sunriver...the High Desert is calling! Mobgirl from OR
hey, everybody.
first of all, i want to thank everyone for all your pm's and messages.
if you don't know my story, my jw-husband left me two months ago (apparently i am a "spiritual endangerment") anyway, i have a date tonight and i am so excited.
Good for you WG! Let us know how it goes! I may be joining your ranks very soon... But so happy for YOU!!!
mobgirl
What...
the world needs now is love sweet love....(who sang that?)
Happy early Birthday TresHappy!!!
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....was I thinking when I married a cradle dub who was da'd for 10 yrs and is now soon to be reinstated?
....hope is there when you do not share a common world view with your partner?
....do you do with all the anger and rage?
....is real Christianity anyway? I thought I had a clue once!
i had occassion to have a conversation with my good friend xenawarrior last weekend and seeing as everyone knows i know everything *lol* she asked me a question, but alas, i couldn't answer, for once in my life...*lol*... anyway, why do people put ads in the classified section thanking st. jude or st. mary, or any number of saints for things?
it almost reminds me of making an invocation or something, but nevertheless a quandry.
anybody got an idea or an answer?.
However as has been alluded to, this brand of Catholicism is more common in places like Mexico and South America.
OK, I have to object here to the above statement because if you haven't checked lately, this so called "brand" of Catholicism is also very common in the very "agricultural" states (i.e. my great state of OR) WA, CA etc. As a Catholic who is married to an almost reinstated JW, I take a bit of offense to being "branded", although I have to agree there are varying shades or degrees of devoutness...not unlike the JW's N'est ce pas? I am NOT superstitious, NOT devout, but would consider praying to St. Jude and publishing IF I felt the need to. This does NOT mean I am from South America or Mexico, nor am I Hispanic. "The Oregonian" and other local papers here have St. Jude notices published regularly.
mob
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my boyfriend (feels more like fiance though i guess as we've talked about but just need the ring) and i have been together over two yrs and living together for over a yr. he never was a jw, and professes to be no religon and isn't even sure god exsists.
is your signifigant other a jw or non-witness?
Hi, I'm new to the boards trying to learn about JW's. I am married to one who was DF'd for 10 yrs (now that I know what that is), and decided last year right b4 Christmas to go back full force. We have been together 5 yrs-(lived together first for 2 1/2 (both of us were married b4) and now married for 3.) BTW, his first wife, marriage, kids, entire family is still JW, all in good standing (third generation dubs!). He DA'd before their divorce, told me he was "mad at God"
I am a Trinitarian loving, Jesus loving Christian-I guess if you need a label, "born again"-YUK I hate labels... Anyway, before we married, I asked him ALOT of questions about his belief in God. He said at that time that he was a Christian, and that he believed in the Trinity. I did not know that dubs did not believe in the Trinity when I asked btw. We have celebrated all holidays, etc. together as a family for the last 4 years. I thought we were on the same page together, and now realize that we never were even in the same book.
So much more to say, but let me sum it up by saying this is a living hell. With the holidays and both my son's and my b-days coming up things will be that much worse. Yes, I HAVE attended meetings with him, HAVE read tons of WTS literature, lurked on this board trying to find out about YOU and your lives. I have done just about everything I can to learn and not BECOME a JW, so I can hopefully understand better.
He will be reinstated soon, and I am told this is when the fun will really start.... Please don't tell me how bad it will get-we are already there-I need some encouragement and hope! Thanks to all for sharing your lives and stories, I have learned so much.