Posts by Hairtrigger

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Sign of the Time of the End ---> Armagaddon

by Waiting4TheKingdom in

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five events to come and to watch for:.

1 world leaders say peace and security!

- they "say" this but may not fully "achieve" this.

Hairtrigger

# 3 has already begun asshole!

this is an Apostate website and 'states have been attacking the WTBS for the last 100 years.

What IQ do you sport ? 5?

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Family of 4 in Miami FL Partakes

by James Jackson in

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kendall lakes congregation (miami fl usa), partook of the emblems.

he is an elder(40), his wife and their 2 daughters (21 &19), all 4 are also regular pioneers.

another 6 pioneers in that congregation partook of the emblems..

Hairtrigger

NEW LIGHT! NEW LIGHT! NEW LIGHT!

The actual no. was 1440000. (Misprint in the GREEK SCRIPTURES- those damn Greeks they get everything assways)

So curb your enthusiasm. And stop breaking bad on the Annointed . We still have a few milliniums to go before AG.

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Is belief in heaven after death relatively new to Christianity?

by EndofMysteries in

i was surprised awhile ago when researching about cremation how until maybe 1940's or 1950's even catholics forbid cremation.

the reason for no cremation was because they believed in a physical resurrection and cremation was a rejection of physical resurrection.

it seems nowadays no christians believe in a earthly resurrection, only that they all go to heaven.

Hairtrigger

LXIII

Oh threats of hell and hopes of paradise!

One thing is certain this life flies;

One thing is certain and the rest is Lies;

The flower that is once blown forever dies.

XXXVII

Ah! fill the cup:- what boots it to repeat

How Time is slipping underneath our feet:

Unborn To-morrow, and dead YESTERDAY

Whyfret about them if To-day be sweet!

XXXIV

Then to this earthern Bowl did I adjourn

My Lip the secret Well of Life to learn:

And Lip to Lip it murmur'd-"While you live

Drink!- for once dead you never shall return".

XXXI

Upfrom Earth's centre through the Seventh Gate

I rose, and on the throne ofSaturn sate,

And many knots inravl'd by the Road

But not the Knot of Human Death and fate.

XX

Ah, my Beloved, fill the Cup that clears

To-dat of past Regrets and future fears-

To-morrow? -Why

, To-morrow i may be

Myself with yesterday's sev'n Thousand Years.

XXIII

Ah, make the most of what we yet may spend,

Before we too into the Dust descend:

Dust to Dust, and under Dust ,to lie,

Sans Wine, sans Song, sans Singer, and-sans End.

XXV

Why, all the Saints and sages who discuss'd

Of the Two Worlds so learnedly, are thrust

Like foolish Prophets forth; their words to Scorn

Are scatter'd , and their Mouths are stopt with Dust.

XXXII

There was a Door to which I found no Key:

There was a Veil past which I could not see:

Some talk awhile of Me and Thee

There seem'd- and then no more of Thee and me.

From "The Rubiat Of Omar Khayaam." First edition.

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Nestor and Toni Kuilan in the works of a new book!

by A.proclaimer in

nestor and toni kuilan are writing a book of their memoirs surrounding their experience with the 1980 apostasy hunts.. .

read a little bit about it here:.

http://freeminds2.org/meet-nestor-and-toni-kuilan/.

Looking forward with impatient anticipation for Randy's meeting . Also -perhaps a translation into English for those of us still struggling to learn Spanish. Thank you A Proclaimer.Appreciate the post.

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Reasons for staying In?

by objectivetruth in

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i have spoken to %90 of mymfriends & family.. and i have found that there are 3 basic reasons why people stay.. .

1. god has always had an organization.

the organization has never been perfect, but he has always had one.. 2. i know a lot of things are wrong, bit where else can i go?

Hairtrigger

First fallacy: Which god and what organization? Where is the evidence? Ifyou are talking exclusively about the Biblical god the "evidence " that J.W's present is fallacious. So is the evidence( which is nada) or what passes for it by every other "Christian" body. The Bible itself can't stand the test of reason. It is ful of contradictions and events of a supernatural nature. So events of a supernatural nature occur inother other religions as well . Hinduism for example. All the ancient religions that came out of the middle east. If the supernatural in the bible is to be believed because it is written then why not religion in Thailand? That show magical healings of devotees at a certain festival who resort to body and face piercings/mutilations. Watch the series "TABOO" to understand this.

2. Go to Science. Not religion. Since the beginning of time Science has found solutions to man's problems. Not religion. Religion has created all the problems. None more so than the Catholic Church, The JW's who are almost a carbon copy of the Catholic church in structure and policy as well as other cultic orders. Mormons et al.

3. Protection from what and whom? The underlying truth is -from the WTBS and the FDS - for this is the JW's greatest enemy. The JW religion. THE WTBS ; the FDS .The Minions who carry out their bidding.- Co's Do's Elders Ms as well as the rank and file who believe in them and their doctrines implicitly- to the point of extreme privation/povertyand emotional and psychological damage to themselves and their families.

4 Don't say that . Many on this forum have defended the faith using the bible but using the bible is no guarantee that you can defend your faith against the WBTS. They don't go by the bible. They use the bible as a contortionist uses his body. Defining it out of shape! The organization is a protection against what? Many have left the organization and still worship Jehovah through his son JC. Jehovahs worshippers are going to be abandoned because they don't conform with the teachings of the WTBS? Where is this writen in the bible pray?

5 Your final question. FEAR! Complete belief in the WTBS and the FDS has created a comfort zone. They don't want to leave for the fear of the UNKNOWN. "The world outside the WATCHTOWER SOCIETY is ruled by Satan. If you go against te Watchtower Satan has got you." FEAR IS THE KEY TO ALL CULT'S CONTROLLING TACTICS. DEBUNKING THIS MYTH: There are many on ths forum who still worship Jehovah through his son Jesus christ. Good people who have led good lives according to the JW dictates and are still living it. They left because they found the doings of the WTBS conflicting with what is written in the bible. Do you mean to say satan has them too? they have surmounted the UNKNOWN. your relatives can too. They just need the will.And to get off their butts.( pardon the french- no insult intended)

By the way I don't believe in any religion. FYI

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Convicted paedophile allowed to grill his victims at Jehovah's Witness meeting

by Sapphy in

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/convicted-paedophile-jonathan-rose-grilled-7151197.

oh my goodness, i'm so angry i can't even speak!

"women who complained that former jehovahs witness elder jonathan rose, 40, had molested them as children relived their nightmares in front of him after he was released from jail".

Hairtrigger

Teary Oberon

Thanks once again. Appreciate the education.

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Convicted paedophile allowed to grill his victims at Jehovah's Witness meeting

by Sapphy in

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/convicted-paedophile-jonathan-rose-grilled-7151197.

oh my goodness, i'm so angry i can't even speak!

"women who complained that former jehovahs witness elder jonathan rose, 40, had molested them as children relived their nightmares in front of him after he was released from jail".

Hairtrigger

Teary Oberon,

This debate gets more interesting by the hour. Will it be possible to post the site where we can look at the information that you present about this case? That would make this whole thing a little clearer. I for one know the little that I do from the MEN article and what you have posted thus far.

Thanks for some very lucid rationale on this debate.

The FDS, WBTS need to defend this in court.

by Hairtrigger in

i hereby deem that all jw marriages that have not resulted in children be annulled .

because not a single one of them have consummated their marriages even though they have been married for years.

and the argument that they were living like angels will not stand up in court because that doesn't happen till after the 1000 years.. if they dispute this then they have to produce two witnesses who can swear that the've seen them coupling in bed multiple times?

Hairtrigger

I hereby deem that all JW marriages that have not resulted in children be annulled . Because not a single one of them have CONSUMMATED THEIR MARRIAGES even though they have been married for years. And the argument that they were living like angels will not stand up in court because that doesn't happen till after the 1000 years.

If they dispute this then they have to produce two witnesses who can swear that the've seen them coupling in bed multiple times?

Questions like"did you enjoy it; Who were you thinking of when you were doing it; was there blood-if not why not-that renders you a non-virgin-hence you engaged in fornication before marriage how come you were not disfellowshipped may arise. This might lead to Elders in the respective congregations being hauled up for not being vigilant.

Medical swabs or any other evidence will not be valid in court.

No evidence is valid or accepted in court, EXCEPT "THE TWO WITNESSES", to the act .

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...The WBT$ Theft of Kingdom Hall Bank Accounts and JW Elders...

by OUTLAW in

.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...

.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...

are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...

Hairtrigger

Steve_c I got the warning too on page 6.

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Convicted paedophile allowed to grill his victims at Jehovah's Witness meeting

by Sapphy in

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/convicted-paedophile-jonathan-rose-grilled-7151197.

oh my goodness, i'm so angry i can't even speak!

"women who complained that former jehovahs witness elder jonathan rose, 40, had molested them as children relived their nightmares in front of him after he was released from jail".

Hairtrigger

Teary Oberon

Thank you for the insight.Appreciate you inputs. Point taken.