i think i posted the fact that i suddenly stopped attending all the meetings, field service and all, very suddenly.
not a single meeting this year.
i guess i would describe myself now as a sort of little toe guy, a liberal christian.. of course, i have had all the elder visits asking me how i am doing etc.
I don?t think the witnesses are embarrassed about Jesus. I think it is all about the language used.
We can all tell a witness a mile away by the way they talk. When a witness starts to sound more like a born again it sends out warning signals.
Remember most ?born agains'? think Jesus is God, so when it sounds as though you are saying Jesus instead of Jehovah, they know something is wrong.
well, another shitty nite at work.
i got to thinking, because i usually don't have anyone to talk to.
humans have instincs to eat, sleep, find a life mate, etc etc etc (the list can go on and on).
I think that God created us in such a way that we fulfill needs at the time we have them. A baby needs to fulfill basic needs.
An adult then need more in his life than ?mummy?. Our needs develop as we grow. Spiritual needs come later, as does the need to find a mate as you mentioned.
pudd.
well, another shitty nite at work.
i got to thinking, because i usually don't have anyone to talk to.
humans have instincs to eat, sleep, find a life mate, etc etc etc (the list can go on and on).
I can't comment on the God of the old testiment. ofcourse that is very cruel.
I do think that many people, incuding myself will say they do feel an inbuilt need for God. I had that long before getting involved with J.W.s and still have it now I have left.
That doesn't mean I have any understanding of who he/she/it is though.
pudd
what i specifically mean, is, sometimes do you feel frustrated that you are bound to xjw things / topics / issues?
once an xjw, always an anti jw type thing?
since leaving the organization in 2002 i've done a pretty good job of moving on, making "worldy" friends, met up w/ some wonderful xjw's (princess and family), and really don't think too much about how much pain jw's have caused me.....but every now and then i find myself compelled to read this board for hours...look up new teachings that make no sense......so in a way i feel forever bound to the xjw world....which i'm not sure is a good thing or a bad thing.
When I first stopped going to meetings and began researching all the stuff about the sociaty; I was worried that I was joining into an ex J.W. cult type situation.
Now though I just think it is great to be able to get to know lots of different people from all walks of life that have this on thing in common.
Few people who have not been witnesses could fully understand that part of my life. On here most do. I find it very helpful, and reasuring
Thanks guys!
Pudd
"and they're both getting baptised today!
no, not that kind of experience.. .
this happened this last weekend at the circuit assembly my (jw) wife attended.
My husband who was an elder, works with children who have emotional and behavioral problems including autism, tourettes etc.
One time when we were at a convention a young boy with some such disorder had been distressed and was reacting badly. Understanding his needs my husband went forward to help. As he is professionally trained in this matter and deals with it on a daily basis, (which was well known by those involved) he could have resolved the matter quickly with the minimum distraction and most importantly focused on the needs of the boy.
He was firmly told to mind his own business (by the attendants, not the parents) and let the first aid attendants who were on duty deal with it (my husband is also a trained first aider!)
Subsequently, the incident and the child?s distressed was prolonged, as the first aiders clearly had no idea how to deal with the matter!
5:9-11, says that anyone who .....calls himself a brother and is a fornicator, idolater, drunkard and such, is not to be greeted or have a meal shared with them.
the witnesses of course, apply this to anyone who calls themselves a witness, and is any of those things, yet still calls themselves a witness.. the problem i always had understanding is......if a person does not call himself a "brother" ( a witness) any longer, then how do they justify applying it to those who choose not to be recognised as such any longer?
in the niv footnote section which gives a short commentary on scriptures.....it plainly says this applies to any who call themselves christians, and do these things.
Sorry GUMBY!!! Not Grumby!
5:9-11, says that anyone who .....calls himself a brother and is a fornicator, idolater, drunkard and such, is not to be greeted or have a meal shared with them.
the witnesses of course, apply this to anyone who calls themselves a witness, and is any of those things, yet still calls themselves a witness.. the problem i always had understanding is......if a person does not call himself a "brother" ( a witness) any longer, then how do they justify applying it to those who choose not to be recognised as such any longer?
in the niv footnote section which gives a short commentary on scriptures.....it plainly says this applies to any who call themselves christians, and do these things.
Good question Gumby
Who knows?
often got heated over that one myself.
i happened to see something on the history channel the other night and, as i was half-listening, i thought the comments were made that the word/name "armageddon" doesn't actually appear in the bible.
i did a quick search thru my electronic "e-sword" bible program and couldn't find any mention of the name in any versions.
the history channel show said amageddon was a reference to the place where all of the armies are going to meet up to throw down in the final conflict that is called armageddon.
rev 16:16 good news edition says armagedom (rather than the nwt har-magedon)
I have been a member of 4 different congregations over the last 16 years. I know that a lot are suffering with verying forms of mental illness.
I n each cong I was in there was on avevage 4 or 5 with serious problems. bad enough for hospitalization at times.
I suppose the great amount of pressure put on witnesses from the socitiey takes it toll.
all the circuit overseers in the uk have been called into bethel for a two-month-long seminar.
no doubt the us has already had theirs: has anything started leaking out yet?
ken
No one: I am sat here still giggling to myself!!
No one is being deleted.Dammit, Simon!! I wasn't even involved.
hit on my sence of humour!
