thanks IT for your kind words.
that is exactly what i get from this board. lots of support in knowing that i am not alone.
if you considered going back to the hall after posting here for a while, would you hesistate telling us?
thanks IT for your kind words.
that is exactly what i get from this board. lots of support in knowing that i am not alone.
if you considered going back to the hall after posting here for a while, would you hesistate telling us?
Actually joking aside for a minute, I still wake up in a cold sweat a night at times wondering if I am doing the right thing in leaving the truth.
So yes I would tell you guys if I were to go back.
Not that I am planning to? but if I did.
Maybe you would then remind me why I shouldn?t be!
well, i guess it's time i came clean.
i've actually been seeking reinstatement for almost six months now.
by getting married, i've removed the next-to-last obstacle to being a part of jehovah's clean people once again.
lol crying with laughter!
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every day either on the way to work or coming home i pass people with signs begging on the side of the road.
i'm curious if anyone here gives them money....i have from time to time, i tend to give more to women then men...i suppose i identify more with them...a kind of "under different circumstances that could be me" feeling i get... .
Where I live there is not a big problem with beggers. There is one old guy that lives in a shop doorway all year round how he has not frozen to death I don't know.
When I lived in Manchester, I used to carry a surply of "appropriate" magazines. If I saw a begger I would witness to them about a life without poverty. I figgered that was more valuable than money, which I did give some times.
I feel such an ass now but a really was one of those very anoying zealous types!
we all know about the wt's dramatic about face in 1995 on the generation thing.
it was a large nail in their coffin, as far as i was concerned.
after all, surely a verse so important, so relevant to our modern times would have been studied intensively at bethel.
So, from the time of the destruction of Jerusalem to 1914 when war broke out in heaven (ridiculous if you ask me) God didn't have an earthly organization representing him?
Why? Do the jws offer any reason for this? I can not understand why God would leave us alone for all that time. Did I miss the read where the jws explain why God abandoned us for all that time? It seems rather cruel.
I remember asking an elder this same question. After a confused look that said "why are you even thinking about things like this" !? His answer was that Jehovah has always used individuals throughout history to accomplish his purpose but in this time of the end it was necessary for a more structured organization!
i think i posted the fact that i suddenly stopped attending all the meetings, field service and all, very suddenly.
not a single meeting this year.
i guess i would describe myself now as a sort of little toe guy, a liberal christian.. of course, i have had all the elder visits asking me how i am doing etc.
I don?t think the witnesses are embarrassed about Jesus. I think it is all about the language used.
We can all tell a witness a mile away by the way they talk. When a witness starts to sound more like a born again it sends out warning signals.
Remember most ?born agains'? think Jesus is God, so when it sounds as though you are saying Jesus instead of Jehovah, they know something is wrong.
well, another shitty nite at work.
i got to thinking, because i usually don't have anyone to talk to.
humans have instincs to eat, sleep, find a life mate, etc etc etc (the list can go on and on).
I think that God created us in such a way that we fulfill needs at the time we have them. A baby needs to fulfill basic needs.
An adult then need more in his life than ?mummy?. Our needs develop as we grow. Spiritual needs come later, as does the need to find a mate as you mentioned.
pudd.
well, another shitty nite at work.
i got to thinking, because i usually don't have anyone to talk to.
humans have instincs to eat, sleep, find a life mate, etc etc etc (the list can go on and on).
I can't comment on the God of the old testiment. ofcourse that is very cruel.
I do think that many people, incuding myself will say they do feel an inbuilt need for God. I had that long before getting involved with J.W.s and still have it now I have left.
That doesn't mean I have any understanding of who he/she/it is though.
pudd
what i specifically mean, is, sometimes do you feel frustrated that you are bound to xjw things / topics / issues?
once an xjw, always an anti jw type thing?
since leaving the organization in 2002 i've done a pretty good job of moving on, making "worldy" friends, met up w/ some wonderful xjw's (princess and family), and really don't think too much about how much pain jw's have caused me.....but every now and then i find myself compelled to read this board for hours...look up new teachings that make no sense......so in a way i feel forever bound to the xjw world....which i'm not sure is a good thing or a bad thing.
When I first stopped going to meetings and began researching all the stuff about the sociaty; I was worried that I was joining into an ex J.W. cult type situation.
Now though I just think it is great to be able to get to know lots of different people from all walks of life that have this on thing in common.
Few people who have not been witnesses could fully understand that part of my life. On here most do. I find it very helpful, and reasuring
Thanks guys!
Pudd
"and they're both getting baptised today!
no, not that kind of experience.. .
this happened this last weekend at the circuit assembly my (jw) wife attended.
My husband who was an elder, works with children who have emotional and behavioral problems including autism, tourettes etc.
One time when we were at a convention a young boy with some such disorder had been distressed and was reacting badly. Understanding his needs my husband went forward to help. As he is professionally trained in this matter and deals with it on a daily basis, (which was well known by those involved) he could have resolved the matter quickly with the minimum distraction and most importantly focused on the needs of the boy.
He was firmly told to mind his own business (by the attendants, not the parents) and let the first aid attendants who were on duty deal with it (my husband is also a trained first aider!)
Subsequently, the incident and the child?s distressed was prolonged, as the first aiders clearly had no idea how to deal with the matter!