all the circuit overseers in the uk have been called into bethel for a two-month-long seminar.
no doubt the us has already had theirs: has anything started leaking out yet?
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I have just read through 4 pages to see if anyone eventually answered the original question!
We visited my very active J.W. inlaws in wales last weekend. and they told us about the big C.O. thing.
I too was very interested in what they could possibly discuss for 8 weeks. shame no one seems to know anything about it.
it's almost 32 years since i left the jw religion.
a bunch of us left around the same time, some were df'd, some weren't, one or two went back into the witnesses over the years.. one of the df'd one's became re-instated and last year i had the pleasure of sending him the letter that we sent to every congregation in the uk, the letter that announced that the wt was an ngo and, incidentally, the whole shebang was full of paedophiles and you lot were going to be on telly nexy week in bbc's panorama!
i digress... anyway, one thing quickly became very clear to those of us that were left.
Very interesting post Englishman.
I agree totally with your thoughts about people not maturing in the "truth". We all need to go though a prossess of growing up when we leave no matter how old we are.
Then again, unlike when we are "in" we don't have to like everybody. so there will be some we do not get along with no matter how long we are out.
Interesting thought Englishman.
I totally
it is snowing in atlanta, georgia!
i grew up in new york (a few miles from wallkill) and snow is actually something i miss....i used to love sitting back inside a warm house and watching everything turn white.
well, now it is really coming down here; i thought it was just a flurry because of the huge flakes but it has been going on for an hour now.
it is snowing here too!
The kids couldn't go to school this morning as we get snowed in. We are in a tiny Devonshire village. All cut off from the rest of the world. very cosy!
i've been using the walk away, avoid elder contact play for a couple of months now.
my boss (an ms in a different cong.
) leaves me a message saying that the elders from my hall called him at his meeting last night.
They've overstepped the bounds of concern and now the whole thing stinks of a dirt-finding, evidence-gathering committee fest.
This is where I have a problem.
If they are genuine though misguided, you can maintaine a degree of respect. What do they want to gain from hounding people down?
There seems to be no balance. They either behave as you descibe, or don't bother with you untill memorial time then tell you how much you mean to them!
my heart is palpitating even as i write this.
it was only recently that i was introduced to this site.
i had long had doubts but could never bring myself to peer over the wall built in my head about the evils of apostates.
Hi surfacing
I am glad you found this forum; it is a great place to try to work out your thoughts and feelings, and to get support from people who really understand what you are going through.
Others have already given some great advice. All I can add is that as you rightly said, this place is not full of evil people trying to turn you away from God! I remember feeling very uncomfortable looking at "apostate" sites I thought Jehovah would be so disappointed with me! But it does get easier. You need to be true to yourself.
Your wife sounds like a great girl! She has stuck by you and stood up for what she feels is right. How does she feel about you coming on here? Does she know?
The way you have been treated is heart breaking. You should have had support after your dad died (very sorry for your loss btw) using your grief as a threat (if you want to see you dad again?) is disgusting.
I do not understand where the elder?s get off saying you can?t sit next to someone in the kingdom hall!! How pathetic!
As for saying your panic attacks are the demons? that is terrible! It is a genuine medical condition. Making you feel guilty is hardly going to help matters and would totally freak me out!
I wish you all the best and hope things work out for you. Stick around and let us know how you are getting on Pudd
for me, the walls of the watchtower were not destroyed by a single giant cannon-ball but rather every brick had been weakened and suddenly the whole thing just 'collapsed'.. i've alwys been an avid reader and a firm believer that you can learn anything and everything from a good book.
anyway, i was reading a bad book, the creation book, and this time things were different.. normally, the mere thought that the wts could "not be right" could not even be contemplated.
it was like you can't even comprehend the concept or understand the question, least of all imagine it.. yet now, i read the book and things were screaming at me from the pages.
thanks for taking the time to write your story simon, very interesting.looking forward to part 4!
remember that magic trick with the thimbles and the pea and you have to guess where the pea is?
somehow it was always switchedbut you didn't notice.. the wts are masters of this when it comes to describing their teachings.. the watchtower of february 15 invites people to join witness congregations:first-century christians also gathered together in congregations.
(acts 2:41, 42, 46; 1 corinthians 1:1, 2; galatians 1:1, 2; 2 thessalonians 1:1) the same is true today.
Very interesting post!
I am wondering how long it will be before I am able to read the bible without automaticaly reading in W/T interpritations. They are very good at what they do.
Brain washing is a scary thing.
1. if you are choking on an ice cube, don't panic.
simply pour a cup of boiling water down your throat and presto!
the blockage will be almost instantly removed.
very good gadget!!
you will soon be cordially invited to the kh.
its mem-bore-ial season and the hunt is on.....for you!.
plan your escape today!!!!
However, I would appreciate their sincerity more if it extended throughout the year and not just at Memorial time, because then I think that perhaps they're just trying to pump up their stats instead of really caring about me and my spirituality
Cruz, my thoughts exactly.
I have still not decided what to do about the memorial this year. It will be my first year if I don't go. Not even sure why I am even thinking about going ....
lots of mixed emotions. anger possibly in there somewhere!
