Posts by Onager

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A Little Direction Please

by Brian J in

i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".

Onager

It's great to see you posting again BrianJ!

I'm trying to imagine the mental turmoil giving a talk at a circuit assembly while being mentally awake.. that would fry my noodle!

I've never fished, but the thought of going out in a small boat with my son and spending a day fishing is magical. It makes me think how stupid Pascal's wager is. What you're losing if you take Pascal's bet is days fishing with your family, it's wasting this one life you have now doing crap like giving talks and knocking doors. It's a life of mental turmoil.

The most valuable things that you have in your possession right now are your life and your family. Anyone that wants to get you to use those precious possessions in doing what they say had better have some concrete evidence of the benefits and not just baseless claims of a future dream of a hand-drawn panda paradise.

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BBC: Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

by Lostandfound in

today on bbc news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255 sorry about typo in heading big story on bbc news in uk.

Onager

Somewhat freaky to see my home town of Cheltenham and the home of my relatives, Evesham, mentioned. So glad that I am not associated with this disgraceful organisation any more.

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Rock band titles from JW history / culture

by sir82 in

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on another thread, undercover suggested "adam and the dinosaurs".. i came up with these:.

green bible dinosaurs.

jezebel and the fornicators.

Onager

The Soft Knockers

Shunning Sons

Physically In Mentally Fucked (P.I.M.F.)

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Understanding Armageddon

by Jayk in

so will armageddon be the biblical one we read about or is it probably going to be a government ban on christians that we will perceive as armageddon?

Onager

Jayk, I hope you don't mind me saying, but your mind seems to be flying all over the place. In this thread that you've started about understanding Armageddon you've then brought up climate change, abortion as a tool of population control and goodness knows what else.

Take a deep breath, there is no urgency. Be happy.

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My Personal Study

by The Real Edward Gentry in

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my current personal study is about the resurection.besides the nine well known resurections (the son of the zaraphath widow, the son of the shulamite woman, the man whose body touched elisha's bones, lazarus, jesus, son of the widow nain, the daughter of jairus, dorcas and eutychus).

there was enoch who god 'transfered' so he wouldn't see death and elijah who god took away in a flaming chariot hidden in a whilwind!

as well as these there were the holy men ofjerusalem resurrected at the same time as jesus.

Onager

"The sex predators and shoplifters will have to be punished quickly."

Yep, it's satire. Or possibly trolling, if one were to be uncharitable.

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Adam and the Dinosaurs

by The Real Edward Gentry in

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here is a fascinating subject.

according to the bible , one of adam's first assignments was to name all the animals including the sea creatures and dinosaurs of course.

we don't know how long this took but, as all witnesses know, the time period is crucial in working out the timing of armageddon).

Onager

"just imagine what it must have been like to have dinosaurs under your personal subjection."

You don't have to imagine! Play Ark: Survival Evolved. You can tame and even ride a wide variety of dinosaurs! There's no fun that compares to stomping around on the back of your own, personal, Triceratops; Or flying on the back of a Pteranodon!

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Understanding Armageddon

by Jayk in

so will armageddon be the biblical one we read about or is it probably going to be a government ban on christians that we will perceive as armageddon?

Onager

Um Jayk, why do you think Armageddon, in any form, is inevitable?

There are risks. There's a possibility of Nuclear Armageddon. That was a very low risk, but is perhaps increasing slightly with the actions of Trump and North Korea.

The chance of governments turning on Christianity I would say is about close to nil. Why would they? Unless the whole of humanity turned on Christianity then the governments would have to turn on their own populace. The same people that vote them into power...

The biblical Armageddon has zero chance. I mean, come on! It's 2,000 year old gore-porn. Complete fantasy.

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Im new to the site. 28 years old, over 10 in exile. This is my story

by Jayk in

it's bitter sweet to find a site like this..i was born in the truth.

when i was 16 i given the option to stop going.

father and mothers family are both witnesses.

Onager

Welcome!

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Hoping I can stay

by allyson in

i started studying with witnesses about 21 months ago.

started going to meetings in march 2017, went to the memorial and attended my first convention.

i love it.

Onager

Hi Allyson,

The Witnesses that you are meeting and who are making you feel welcome are doing so because of Conditional Love. They love you on the condition that you do everything that the Organisation says, and act and think the same way as everyone else in the congregation.

And even if you try and conform to their ways once it is known that you are Trans, the love will stop.

When I was a JW there were two gay men in my congregation. One was a pioneer who tried to deny he was gay. He ended up having a nervous breakdown, leaving the JW's and going "ultra gay". But the few times I saw him in the street he looked tormented.

The other chap was a study who tried to change himself to conform, then tried to be accepted as gay but still study but who was eventually driven out of the congregation by the passive aggression showed towards him.

I know gay and trans are very different, but they're not to the JW's. They're "Wrong" in their eyes and will never be accepted or accommodated.

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Key to some universal truths—Queen Jezebel has it!

by venus in

even wicked queen jezebel knew ‘what is good and what is bad’ because she described those who hurt others for no reason as “good-for-nothing.” (1 king 21:10).

from her comment the following universal truths can be discerned:.

1) everyone is endowed with the knowledge of good and bad, which makes god’s communication with humans unnecessary.

Onager

EH?!

So your dad plans before opening a hotel, therefore God exists?

Are any of your dad's hotels like "Hotel Earth" where guests randomly get killed by a wide variety of means?

Do your dad's hotels have water you can drink and water that makes your bowels explode?

The point is, the Earth doesn't show any signs of being planned. The whole universe shows no signs of being planned. There are stars exploding all over the place, whole galaxies crashing into each other, asteroids whizzing about. It's complete chaos.

Religions give rise to atheists only in specific cases. The Mormons put forward their idea of God, the atheist disproves and therefore doesn't believe in that god and so on. But everyone is born an atheist. Atheism is the baseline. It's only from there that people learn about Gods and religions. That's why if you're born in America you'll most likely be a Christian. If you're born in Pakistan you'll be a Muslim.

If humans started off with knowledge of God then there would either only be one religion or the religions would be evenly mixed across the globe.