Funny...opening of letter is Dear Brothers....
No sisters....well...lucky them
menrov
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May 16, 2016 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS IN BRITAIN Re: Donations to the Worldwide Work Using jw.org
by wifibandit inmay 16, 2016 to all congregations in britain re: donations to the worldwide work using jw.org.
adding it to the list.... may 2015 broadcast.
jehovah will care for our needs.
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Dutch TV crew kicked out of Circuit Assembly
by Anders Andersen inin the netherlands, a tv crew for powned (a website/tv station known for their non-conventional approach and love for controversy) visited a circuit assembly.
the video starts with them asking 'is everyone welcome here, even criminals, bikers, gays?
', and the answer is of course yes.. then the clip focuses on asking dubs questions about gays and the caleb video.. in the end the crew is asked to stop filming and leave.
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menrov
Actually nothing special. The spokesman mentioned that a person can be born with a deviation but that does.not mean the person should give in / practice it. No real tough questions in my view...normally these reporters are far more challenging
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An Atheist gives Credit To Religions
by smiddy ineven though i now consider myself an atheist and have little time for religion as such , i have to acknowledge that some religious institutions , and even some i would consider a cult more so than others , do a fantastic job in the field of charitable works.. for so many in our communities who are disadvantaged ,in one way or another , the down and outs , for a better phrase , those that have succumbed to alcoholism , drug dependency , mental illness in it`s many forms , homeless people , juveniles suffering abuse of one sort or another at home , domestic violence , etc.
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the list just goes on and on .. yet their are religious charitable institutions who are at the forefront of helping these people offering and lending a hand both physically , emotionally , and even financially to support these people without judging them .. so even though i consider myself an atheist i can commend what these religious institutions do to for these people... i can`t say the same thing for jehovah`s witnesses who will take , take , take and give nothing in return.. smiddy.
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menrov
Talesin, thanks. Only when one leaves the WBTS it becomes obvious and clear that it is the WBTS that hardly does any charity at all and that, in contrast to the WBTS teachings, many other religious organizations spend plenty of their funds and network to do good in the community and beyond. -
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CHILD BAPTISM
by megabyte_vijay init is strange to read the last week watchtower that encouraging child/teenagers' baptism.
even jesus was baptised as his 30. jws encouraging marriages at an older age.
but why they are encouraging children to get baptised.
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menrov
There is absolutely nothing in the scriptures that supports child baptism. But JW's need numbers and control.
The last WT article on this is actually very scary as it does not involve the role of the parents at all. A baptized child (yes, anyone legally not allowed to make its own legal decisions , ie. enter into a contract) becomes accountable to the organization, not to its parents A teenager who has sex will likely be punished and / or DF'ed and the parents have officially no say in this at all.
Most scary.
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questions
by Schilderijtje inwe are two students from holland, who would like some information about jehovah witnesses.
especially about the invisible return of jesus.
on which bible scripts do you ground this?
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menrov
Jullie kunnen mij een pm sturen. Ik wil jullie best helpen. Ik hoor het wel. -
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New Anti Gay Cartoon Video not available in German
by Daniel1555 inthe lesson 22 video or better called anti gay video went viral.. there is another thread that main dutch media covered it in their articles.. i wanted to write to one of the biggest swiss newspapers about it.
that newspaper also covered the controversy about the "meeting" cartoon, where the message is made that if jw children don't listen at the meetings they might get killed finally.. then i realized that it is not available in german.. it is available in so many other languages, like guarani (never heard of that language), but german is missing.. are they afraid to offer it in german?
do they expect too much controversy in germany?.
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menrov
Hi, I am Dutch (stubborn, inactive JW etc etc :-) ) You said above: there is another thread that main dutch media covered it in their articles
Where can I find that?
Thanks. Bedankt
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Prince will Be Resurrected
by Wild_Thing ini'm sure prince has already been talked about to death on this site, but a jw family member just liked a video posted by a jw group on facebook that is an interview of prince about his conversion to jw.
it's the comments made by jws that this post is about.. prince was a great artist!
and the world has lost a musical genius in my opinion, but he lost me after he converted.
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menrov
I hear Prince took an overdose a few days back and had to be taken to hospital urgently, In other words, it seems he was still a "user" .... if all true, do JW's stil think he will be with them in the future?? -
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TheAtlantic.com - Disowning a Daughter Over a Church
by defender of truth ina reader from south carolina has a heartbreaking story:" i am 31 years old.
i was raised in a strict bi-cultural (af-american and nigerian) jehovah’s witness family, one of six children.
though it’s generally looked down upon for jws to attend liberal arts universities (vocational schools are recommended), i somehow convinced my parents to allow me to go to university and major in theater (!!
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menrov
I do not understand why governments do not apply a policy that allows them to revoke the tax exempt status of an organization when such organization applies a policy of shunning. Shunning means a discrimination of people who have different ideas. Charities should not be discriminative in that regard. I am 100% convinced that if a government would apply such a policy, the WBTS (and other religious organizations) would stop the shunning practice immediately. -
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"New light"?
by winstonchurchill inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-june-2016/man-with-inkhorn/.
so i guess baptism is no longer the "mark for survival".. as a matter of fact, that key aspect of the 'old light' is not even acknowledged in this article.. they are just publishing new understanding without even bothering to explain the full extent of the change, hoping nobody will remember how it was... and they may be right about that..
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menrov
Strange, I thought the WBTS would no longer apply the type-antitype views. I must have been wrong :-)
It is a very strange comparison. The people to be marked were not living during a tribulation. It was jut a time of great abominations. False worshipping by Israel, His chosen people. The ones marked are groaning and moaning. This has nothing to do with being judged,
Well, what can one expect from those that form the gb of the WBTS.......
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How credible are NWT's critiques?: Allin and John 8:58. (2)
by Wonderment inhow credible are nwt's critiques?
: allin and john 8:58.a few weeks ago we had a discussion surrounding john 8.58. the posters in this forum offered various views in regards to jesus' divine role in scripture.
occasionally, some scholars publish articles where they voice their opinion against the nwt theological renderings.
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menrov
Wonderment, thanks for the review. It is interesting albeit a rather long story. My view: all translations are the result of the agenda of the translator(s) and their (paying) organizations. The NWT is nothing different. It have been shown in various ways that the translators have changed wording, word order or meaning of verses or words to serve their doctrines. But also other translations are guilty of that. I therefore prefer translations that have good footnotes to explain why the translators decided to translate a verse or word the way he did but also shows that there are other options or views. You can then either agree or disagree but at least you are informed. The NET is not a bad example in that sense. But likely there are others.
The NWT however hardly have footnotes that actually add any value or clarify something. Check out John 1:4 and compare this with other translations. Nothing in the NWT indicates they have rendered this verse rather differently than many other translations.
My view on John 8:58 and the rendering in NWT versus others. It very much seems the NWT is inconsistent in their translation of that particular word. I am not saying that grammatically it cannot be I have been but in about all 138 occurrences of εἰμί it is translated as I AM. Did Jesus in his reply in John 8:58 actually wanted to teach his audience he was YHWH? The context does not give that impression. In my view Jesus just wanted to show that he was not jus the son of Josef (and therefore merely a mortal person) but that he was from heaven, and existed far before anything else. In my view the expression I am in this case gives the impression that Jesus wanted to show that it is not relevant how long he lived before Abraham, just that he existed before Abraham.
The NWT is so worried that the Rank and File might think more of Jesus than what the WBTS wants them to think of Jesus (WBTS prefers to minimize the role of Jesus and act as if the organization is more important than Jesus), that they decided to deviate from a normal translation and applied a translation that technically (grammatically) can be correct but seen from the context or from perspective of consistency, it s a most peculiar translation to say the least.