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  Evidence of WT bad intent - How they handled changing the meaning of "porneia"

  by AlainAlam in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  sorry, long post :) i'm considering evidence that at least at some point, the gb/watchtower had bad intentions.

  i would like to share the following: *** w74 11/15 p. 703 questions from readers ***do lewd practices on the part of a married person toward that one’s own mate constitute a scriptural basis for the offended mate to get a divorce?there are times when lewd practices within the marriage arrangement would provide a basis for a scriptural divorce.. based on this, some jw chose to divorce.

  but then:*** w83 3/15 p. 30 honor godly marriage!

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  menrov

  It says:

  Those who acted on the basis of the knowledge they had at the time

  You wonder where that knowledge came from? Like with many other "mistakes", it is always the believer who is wrong.
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  WT, and more contact, Do you think it is Narc Hoovering?

  by Wakanda in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the behavior from the org lately had me a bit confused, as it seemed to fall outside of their norm.

  i'm not talking the hardcore armageddon wishers texting each other about peace and security, etc.

  * but, the elders contacting people daily, and having extra meetings where they have all their additional rules.

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  menrov

  I guess most JW's suddenly see that other religions do a lot more to help people, also non-religious organisation etc. All this is reported in the news. WT might see the threat that their R&F can start to join these non-JW approved activities. So, they decided to mimic these acts of charity but of course, only among themselves.
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  What's the difference? Million? Billion? Trillion? For the curious among us ...

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what's the difference?

  a millionaire, a billionaire, and a trillionaire recognize each other outside an attorney’s office.

  chat reveals each of them just signed off on their last will and testament.millionaire: “i feel really good about what i did here today.

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  I still lack 999,999.00 to reach my first million......yeah....
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  No Need to pass the bread and wine!

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  logged into a zoom 'pep talk' from one of the local elders last night.

  about 9 families were connected via zoom which was pretty cool.

  however the information shared was even better.

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  menrov

  it will be the best memorial ever
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  Public Talk Outlines!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  current public talk outlines.

  blank page between each talk.. .

  https://docdro.id/w209l0s.

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  menrov

  Jesus mentioned 697 times Jehovah mentioned 1776 time. I rest my case.

  Thanks
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  2020--02--3 New Letters Arrived!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2020-02-s-147--announcements and reminders.

  https://docdro.id/stpo5fj.

  2020-02-s-126-e--memorial chairman.

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  menrov

  It is called the "annual observance of the memorial of Christ's death". In other words, the whole event is to be observed, not to participate. I wonder where Jesus said that HIs offer should be remembered this way....

  pfff....what do I know.

  Thanks
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  Watch Tower's Popularity

  by dydeonwl in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower has been named as world's most published and circulated magazine in us.

  amazing.

  source:.

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  menrov

  The article says: "More than 50 million copies are sold in a month in major countries of the world where Bible is read. This magazine is published by a reputable agency Jehovah’s Witnesses."

  First, the WT is not sold but distributed (placed), free of cost to the recipient.

  Second, it is apparently published by a "reputable agency" .... funny, not a religion organization but an agency....and one wonders why it is reputable

  What is missing is how many of these free of charge WT's magazine end up unread in the garbage can.

  Also, how did they measure popularity ??

  Anyway, this is about US made magazines. I wonder if you would look at free newspapers in the UK for example or certain publications in China or India.
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  Current JW growth in the United States in historical perspective and in comparison with other groups

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  current jw growth is slower than during most of their history.

  the only probable exceptions are following 1975 when there was a brief worldwide decrease, the late 1920s when around half of the members left the movement, perhaps around the 1917 schism, and various schisms during russell’s time.

  there were also periods of sluggish growth during the 1950/60s and around 2000. .

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  It is understandable the WT has grown as they have a large marketing / sales team at their disposal, the so-called publishers. We all agree that they are not very effective (hours spent versus new JW's) but as they spend a lot of time on it, they manage to grow.

  Any organisation who would have so many people at their disposal to promote the organisation, would generate some growth.

  Still, interesting to see these differences among some religious organisations.
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  What if .... some thoughts

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, to start, i no longer believe the scriptures are inspired.

  may be some writers were influenced but that does not mean all what they wrote was correct.

  does this mean there is no creator?

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  @stan livedeath
  Thank you for your advice. I am not worrying at all and am enjoying my life. However, for those that are struggling to make up their mind or like to hear other viewpoints, I decided to share. If I can help only one person, it was worth the effort.
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  What if .... some thoughts

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, to start, i no longer believe the scriptures are inspired.

  may be some writers were influenced but that does not mean all what they wrote was correct.

  does this mean there is no creator?

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  menrov

  OK, to start, I no longer believe the scriptures are inspired. May be some writers were influenced but that does not mean all what they wrote was correct. As such, it is my view that none of the so-called religious scriptures (Christian, Islam etc) are inspired by a higher power. Does this mean there is no creator? Should I therefore believe in evolution?

  What if .... both is true? I mean, you have a creator and things have evolved over time? The earth is very old and plants/trees as well. So is animal life. And most likely human life.

  Religious people in general believe that humans were created in one-go, completely, no failures. Well, why would a creator leave the earth useless for so long? Pure evolution (i.e. big bang) would mean that suddenly everything was there in order to develop into a human being without failure or shortcomings and would also be able to reproduce immediately....what are the odds?
  BUT...what if a creator made various efforts to develop something that in the end became a human being? The creator had many years available to allow trial and error. And WHAT IF these efforts would have taken place on various parts of the earth? Why rely only on one human being knowing that many things can go wrong?

  In other words, WHAT IF life is the result of creation but has evolved over million years in order to become a human being as we know it? In my view, it does explain a lot, for example why we do become older but are still not capable to beat certain bacteria or viruses.

  Anyway...wanted to share... :-)