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  Prime Minister of Australia announces intention to revoke Jehovah’s Witnesses charity status

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  today, marking the second anniversary of the australian national apology to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse, the prime minister of australia has announce in federal parliament the intention to place sanctions against the jehovah’s witnesses in relation to child sexual abuse.. quote from prime minister:.

  the royal commission [into institutional response to child sexual abuse], the [national] apology [to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse] and these yearly reports are about accountability: bringing the truth into the light ... we still have, reprehensibly, four institutions that have been named publicly and that have blatantly refused to join the redress scheme.

  they are jehovah's witnesses ... it's not acceptable.

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  menrov

  you reap what you sow
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  New terminology? “Donations in Support of Kingdom Interests Worldwide”

  by Ultimate Reality in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  petra/atlantis recently posted and supplied a document on donations.

  what stood out to me, besides the usual nonsense, was the phrase, “donations in support of kingdom interests worldwide.”.

  this appears to be a change in terminology from donations in support of the “worldwide work of jehovah’s witnesses.”.

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  I wonder how this will work. It says I can donate for a local congregation but the money would go to the WT organisation, not directy to the local congregation.

  Now, for sake of (illogical) argument :-), I want to give 10k to local congregation. The local congregation is not allowed to have more in their bank account than needed for simple maintenance. So, this 10k will never be given to the local congregation I assume.

  Actually, I wonder if fiscally it is allowed that the WT would keep the money that actually was provided by me to the local congregation....
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  Sin came into the world - not true?

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  matt 5:27 “you have heard that it was said, ‘do not commit adultery.’ 28 but i say to you that whoever looks at a woman to desire her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.. this means that even before someone commits an act that is considered a sin or wrong but does think about it, that person actually already committed that sin or trespassing.. now read this:.

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  5:12 so then, just as sin entered the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all people because all sinned— 13 for before the law was given, sin was in the world, but there is no accounting for sin when there is no law.. this means that there was already sin in the world before adam and eve actually ate the fruit.

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  Matt 5:27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to desire her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

  This means that even before someone commits an act that is considered a sin or wrong but does think about it, that person actually already committed that sin or trespassing.

  Now read this:

  Rom. 5:12 So then, just as sin entered the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all people because all sinned— 13 for before the law was given, sin was in the world, but there is no accounting for sin when there is no law.
  

  This means that there was already sin in the world before Adam and Eve actually ate the fruit. Because:

  Gen. 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree produced fruit that was good for food, was attractive to the eye, and was desirable for making one wise, she took some of its fruit and ate it. She also gave some of it to her husband who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them opened, and they knew they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
  

  So, Eve had a desire to eat which was not allowed. So, she already committed the sin even before she ate. Adam followed to eat. As such, we can only conclude that Adam and Eve were created with sin. As they had no human parents, they could not blame the genes or DNA from their parents. In other words, based on the scriptures about the acts of Adam and Eve, the only conclusion is that Adam nor Eve were without sin before they actually committed the sin or trespassing.
  
  As a side point, it seems the fruit was under a spell. Gen. 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them opened, and they knew they were naked; ...

  This means that the bite(s) from the fruit instantly generated a change in their heads. Like magic. You might wonder, what chance did either Eve or Adam have to withstand the look of the fruit.
  
  
  
  
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  KH flying Chilean Flags??

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i saw a headline saying chile is demanding religious organizations fly the nations flag.. is this accurate?

  is the society complying?.

  https://jwsurvey.org/tag/jehovahs-witnesses.

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  "...as long as worship or ceremonies are not involved"..... then it is ok and we raise the national flag though the flag represents nationalism, patriotism and that you support that. BUT do not celebrate a birthday or in anyway participate, because well....you might lose God as your friend.
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  My Prediction: Trump Wins Big

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a month ago it might have been questionable.

  not now.

  after bader’s death and biden’s inability, this shouldn’t be close.

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  I am not a US citizen so can only "judge" from the outside. Every POTUS have their shortcomings and successes. So, just looking at the facts, I doubt what benefit the current POTUS has brought the citizens he represents:

  - trying to remove health care for the poor

  - more internal conflicts in many cities, somehow driven by race, increased polarization

  - poor reputation among the traditional allies

  - Created a trade war with China with only losers

  - Achieved nothing in North Korea, despite his own propaganda
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  Do Other Sheep have Eternal Life Now?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one of the benefits of justification is eternal life for believers.

  i found an interesting passage from the wt, june 15, 1974 which reads:.

  "it is to the spirit anointed christians who will rule in that kingdom that most of the christian-greek scriptures is directed, including the promise of everlasting life.

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  The other sheep do need to "earn" life during the 1000 years. Only to so-called anointed are Gods children and as such, will benefit from the Mediator and the ransom and have eternal life in heaven.

  This is the WT doctrine
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  Belgium: Jehovah's Witnesses will be tried for hate crimes on February 16.

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  belgium: jehovah's witnesses will be tried for hate crimes on february 16.. https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20200915_93224449.

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  Whether the WT will lose or not, it is bad publicity for them and more people will become aware of these "peculiar" practices.
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  Worldwide preaching campaign targeting government officials.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anybody know what this message will contain ?

  is it designed to provoke a response that will bring persecution on the religion ?

  or is it just going to be some meaningless weak campaign to get the rank and file all excited about it and achieving nothing.. or is it going to suggest to the government officials that this mob could very well be the next jonestown /wacol incident and we need to act now.

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  TIME FOR ACTION.....what would that mean? Politicians to give up their job and then being governed by the great 8 and wait for the end .... in the meantime...who will govern you country, support the weak, the meek the poor, health care, roads etc etc

  JW's are in general good in just waiting....waiting for updates on doctrines, waiting for their god to help the weak, poor and meek....
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  Ok, We Need To Talk About The Latest Caleb & Sophia Cartoon

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (as of 10 sep 2020) there's a new caleb & sophia cartoon in which the org puts into the minds of children the idea that celebrating a birthday will cause jehovah to not want to be your friend anymore.. https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/trailer-jehovah-forgives/.

  can you imagine being 6 years old and thinking god himself is no longer your friend because you blew out a candle on a birthday cake or wished someone a happy birthday?.

  as bad as all this is, the birthday thing is just one of many jw rules that isnt even supported by scripure.

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  YHWH will not protect these kids from pedophiles and other predators but will get upset if they join a birthday celebration.......
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  Meanwhile over at exjw reddit

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it has no value at all.

  it consists of 99% dumb, confused kids asking stupid hypothetical questions.

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  I cannot say much about the EXJW Reddit forum but I have to agree with Anders Andersen that lately I see quite a number of political posts on here that have little to do with JW's or WT.