Posts by HeyThere

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this weekend's "SPECIAL TALK"....

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, so as most know, this is the weekend of the "special talk" .... if anyone is going to the k hall, please shaer your thoughts on what makes is "so special".... i bet it will be more recycled same same.... "god loves you, he hates violence, he hates bad things happening to good people, he wants you all to be jw memebers...or he will kill you all at the big loving armageddon!!!!!!!

!.

HeyThere

i get to miss it this year. poor, poor me.

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"The Devil is at Work!"

by HeyThere in

i consider myself a christian.

seriously did not even think that jw was that much different...but now i know better and it has my mind spinning.

i have stopped answering questions, say my own prayers to god at the meetings, and plastr on a fake smile.

HeyThere

i am glad i figured it out when i did...my original goal was to get baptized at the dc this year....and my hubby now knows i am not getting baptised at all. i am already a baptised christian and am holding on to thay, not the.pod people who cant even explain why they are scared of random things, like smurfs. i asked my hubby, what is wrong with smurfs? he didnt know, so he asks his mom. her response "smurfs are bad!" okay, but why are smurfs bad? "they are justbad!"

well, heck. that doesnt make any smurfin sense!

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Upcoming Surgery and Blood

by HeyThere in

i am a newly unbaptised publisher.

recently i found out i need to have major surgery and the jw's tried to rush a blood card in my hand.

i was so relieved when the elders said i could not have one until i was baptised.. but they rushed to get me copies of the blood videos.

HeyThere

everything is completed without any issues. the surgery went without a problem, i am now home as of today and while i am still weak and in pain i already feel the difference.

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What happens to marriages upon the arrival of Armageddon?

by insearchoftruth in

a couple of paradise earth questions: .

1) if you are a married, baptized witness couple (both people being baptized) and armageddon arrives, will the couple still be married on paradise earthtm?

2) if you are married to an unbelieving mate (ubm) and armageddon arrives, will the witness be free to remarry on paradise earth?.

HeyThere

this is all bizarre to me....how do they come up with this stuff; it is so strange.

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Are we all actually "bad / evil / immoral" after leaving the faith?

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

so recently there have been several posts with references to talks and articles that imply the following:.

most of those who learn ttatt or fade from the "truth", are actually practicers of bad things, eg immorality, hence that is why 'we' now find fault with the org?.

i find this so offensive that they imply such.

HeyThere

my husband has basically saod the same thing...tbat people who left are mad they couldnt do whatever sinful thing tbey wantd to do....but i disgree completely. i discovefed ttatt before baptism amd have made the choice to not get baptised...and that does not make me a sinner. the true sinneds here are the manipulators playimg with peoples lives amd.family and health with thsor crazy interpretations and made up bible stories.

sorry for typos my phone is acting up

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What happens to marriages upon the arrival of Armageddon?

by insearchoftruth in

a couple of paradise earth questions: .

1) if you are a married, baptized witness couple (both people being baptized) and armageddon arrives, will the couple still be married on paradise earthtm?

2) if you are married to an unbelieving mate (ubm) and armageddon arrives, will the witness be free to remarry on paradise earth?.

HeyThere

where is any of this in the bible? or is this just stuff made up by the dubs?

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So I got called on today...

by Thumblina in

jw
friends

poor sod.

i felt quite sorry for him in the end.. for context, i was brought up as a jw since i was very young.

i left 6 years ago (faded) a little before turning 30. i was on here a lot around that time but under a different profile that's no longer active.. for the past 18 months, i'm back living in the territory of the congregation i grew up in.

HeyThere

cult #1 or cult #2...yikes. was this a desperite times for desperite measures thing?

what is scientologies view on blood? withy upcoming major surgefy, perhaps i can spin that on my h? just kidding.

makes me feel bad for this guy.

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This Weekends SAD Not So Special

by piztjw in

so after being at this weekend's snooze fest i thought the following pretty well summed it all up:.

if it feels good, looks good, sounds good, tastes good, smells good, or is even moderately enjoyable it is from satan!

and if you feel it, look at it, listen to it, taste it, smell it, or even remotely enjoy it you are going to die at armagedon.. if you are too busy, too stressed, or barely able to make financial ends meet, you must pray more, study more, go out door knocking more, and give more money to the organization.. if you are a brother and you have been snubbed, slighted, ignored, bullied, and otherwise passed over for any "advancement" in spite of "reaching out", it is your fault!

HeyThere

Ours was...pretty much the same. They actually talked about satan in the world and to avoid all apostates...basically everyone who is not a jw. Avoid any church, not even step a foot it a church and avoid churchly apostates, too. And, of course, specifically brought up avoiding the internet with any negative talk about jw...dont even go on to try and spread the truth! Avoid those apostates! Beware of independent thinking. The more you study the watchtower magazines the more you will understand how critical this is! Additionally, a DO something along the lines of just because there may be incorrect understanding of bible truth doesnt mean jw do not have the truth. That is no reason to loose faith! And then a grl got up to share her story, and was saying how blessed she is to have jehovahs family since she cant be around her own dad because he is an apostate, and that his disbelief in the truth felt like she was stabbed in the heart!!!

Then lunch. I had been sitting in the lunch room. My husband comes and asks if I heard the part about the apostates and the websites (we have been talking about things I have been learning about jws) I confirmed yes, I heard it. And also the independent thinking & shunning of the father part. A loving arrangement that it is.

And after lunch and the snooze fest they did the same number munching donation begging (we never ask for money! Its all voluntary!!) My husband asks if I wrote a check. I raised an eyebrow at him. He went and donated. Actual cash. I will do some jwfact stickers atthe DC. muh-ha-ha-ha there goes that independent thinking again!

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"The Devil is at Work!"

by HeyThere in

i consider myself a christian.

seriously did not even think that jw was that much different...but now i know better and it has my mind spinning.

i have stopped answering questions, say my own prayers to god at the meetings, and plastr on a fake smile.

HeyThere

@sarahsmile, I don't think he shared it with her ina malicious way - and he doesn't typically shre our conversations with her. I think it was more along the lines of how excited they were for me to become an unbaptised publisher and then within weeks I was voicing my concerns to him about the religion. I was fine until the elders said somethign to me about counting all people who associated with a kh as witnesses to "make the numbers look better" and that people are only removed from the count if they send a letter of resignation - even young teens who may have attended 20 years ago with their parent are counted in the numbers unless they officially resign - this came from an elder. It make me wonder, okay, how many witnesses are there really? I started looking up stuff, found the Candice Conti case, found the other cases, found this website, found more stuff, and found I was over it. So he has been confused and worried, honestly. Because he is a full in, raised jw, engrained beliefs, that I now don't share and am speaking against even. I can understand where he is coming from and that is why I plan to fade slowly and not push it in his face...because it will not be easy for him.

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Requirements for the Anointed

by HeyThere in

so i have a question...according to the bible, the anointed are virgins, among other things.

so how are married fathers and mothers able to be anointedwhy xoes nobody question this?

now, i did see in this past weeks wt they mentioned "spiritual virgins" which is not in the bible...why do people believe this stuff they spew....it is so weird!

HeyThere

@stuckinarut - lmbo! Yes, it is not easy to follow, is it? Whatever fits the need at the time. Yeesh.

@sarahsmiles - I noticed at the last assembly that they said "you may now be seated brothers" and "the brothers welcome you into their congregations..." (said to the newly baptized) I was looking around for any other reactions and...none! I was tempted to partake but I figured my husband would freak out because he is soooo jw right now he would think I was mocking him or something.

@enlightenment123 - yes, I have the Revalation book and it is...something else. I have a very old version of it too. Makes it even better.

everyone else, thank you for the info. I am rushing getting kids ready for school but will check in again later.