When I mentioned the full letter regardimg the new donation scam to the sister i studied with, I basically told her that i knew about the chanhe before the congregation did, and thoigh they only heard/saw page one, there were more pages. she asked where i got it, i said the internet, she asked was it from jw.org, i explained that it was not however the info proved to be true, she wanted nothing to do with it. they are so brain washed they wont even accept the real truth...
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I just noticed this tactic
by problemaddict inin reading terrys latest post, if made me think of something that exists and many of us have experienced but i have not really put into a logical thoughts process before.
in terrys 4 facts everyone should know about jw's, the second one referrs to the walsh trial where unity is said to be more important than truth, in no uncertain terms.. this made me think about how one would bring up this fact.
my mind wandered to the beginning of my fade, when inevitably, many of us open up our mouths and say too much.
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New Leaflet to give to JW about TTATT
by TJ Curioso inhi to all my fellows "apostates" in all world... especially in e.u.a.
and uk.. as some of you already know, ex-jw in portugal created a leaflet especialy to send to jw in all the country (individualy or to congregations).
we must say that it was a sucess from the point of view of the impact originated.
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HOLY HELL!!! These people are freaking watchtarded!!!
by DATA-DOG ini just got done with the first day of the rc!
freaking delusion!!
propaganda films a go-go!!
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dd, lol! i want to sing something, but it aint kingdom melodies! i have 3 weeks until my dub-a-palooza.
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Troll Accusations
by Frazzled UBM ini have noticed that some of us are a bit too eager to label new posters as trolls.
while it is clear that there are some posters who just like to stir up trouble or are out and out apologists there are others who are witnesses starting to have genuine doubts and so ask questions but then when they see the responses the cognitive dissonance kicks in and they push back and argue with what they are being told.
this can lead to very negative reactions from jwn members and accusations that the person is a troll.
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Fraz thank you for this. i never experienced it myself but did read a few threads where it happened and smh it was sad to see. even if the poster is trolling, why not show them what real caring is...and no attacks. dont risk scaring away even 1 person trying to fimd ttatt...
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Australian Government publishes on official web site the current Jehovah's Witnesses "Handling of Child Abuse" confidential letter to all bodies of elders (October 1, 2012)
by jwleaks inthe current jehovah's witnesses official child abuse handling procedure letter to all bodies of elders (october 1, 2012) has been placed into public domain by the australian (victoria) government "inquiry into the handling of child abuse by religious oganisations".. official government web site link to letter:.
http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images/stories/committees/fcdc/inquiries/57th/child_abuse_inquiry/submissions/steven_unthank_supp_a_appendix_1.pdf.
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What has the WTS EVER "predicted" that has actually come true?
by integ inyou'd think they could point to something right?
obviously we're the one true religion".. i can't fathom how anyone of any intelligence would be willing to join up with this org after doing even rudimentary research.. for years they have taught that it's wrong to seek advanced education or to plan for a "worldly" future by trusting in this system of things and then this past sunday the watchtower article rips on people for not planning for the future in regard to their elderly relatives.
maybe if they hadn't been teaching for 100 yr's that the end was "just around the corner" and telling us we'd better believe that fact...or else, we would have planned better for a future that you said without reservation would not even occur.. what mind blowing prediction can they point to that would convince someone "oh yeah..these guys have it right"...?.
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i saw the wt about elderly as acknowledgment that there are now many old witnesses who dont have a way to care for themselves because they listened to the wt amd didnt plan for this "system" to last. now with cutting the do's you add even more needy older ones. ones who may have shunned theor family and kids oray have fam amd kids as broke as them from following the dub dub. so it was a manipulative, timely reminderasking for dubs to help the needy older ones becaise the wt wont. the wt keeps all donatioms, so npw they want dubs to also donate directly to those needy ones as well, using their typical j-dub mind tricks to do it. all while still asking those same needy ones to donate what they can as well to gain jehovahs favor...remember this same wt issue discusses the poor widow who gained jehovahs favor....
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oh cr@p!! its my turn for "an elder called and wants to arrange a shepherding call" thread. Moral support please.
by MissFit inis coming and the elder wanted to set up a visit.
it's not like i wasn't warned.
there was a thread that talked about the push to call on inactive ones.. thanks to the heads up here, i knew the motive for the call.. i don't think i even know that eld.
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i would ignore. you have no obligation to talk with or meet with them.
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Why the Clean out of top Management
by Poztate init has been commented here that "soon" the do's will be history.
the co level will be "retired" at age 70 and the latest development was that the cobe can not serve after age 80. it would seem that there is a "cull" of top management.
in secular companys that would signal a radical change of directions ???.
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Blood, Fractions Policy and Milk Products compared
by Not Feeling It inthis is my first post on the new site so here goes.... .
i was reading the post a while back from "v" on blood policy and fractions where it was compared to a ham sandwich.
this was a good illustration, but i thought it lacking a bit in that the components exist on their own as food items rather than derivatives.
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there is a certain amount of allowed "blood and puss" in dairy products. google it. so if a dub drinks milk a dub is drinking some blood....
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My First "Publication Free" Study...
by HeyThere inwas not so publication free.
do witnesses not know how to talk about the bible without a wt pub to guide them?.
fist, she tried to get me to start once again in the bible teach book as if i had never said i didnt want to study from the pubs, so i reminded her.
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jgnat, good idea. i ordered old wt pubs and such, but nothing about cult recovery. i completely messed up when i talked to my husband, and it appears i pushed him further in...and he is nearly shunning me now in a way...he is just different. i hate this cult. they are playing with peoples lives cruely while saying over and over how loving the arrangment is...loving provision of turning people against those who truly love them.