The word "religion" is not in the Bible as far as I know. Rev 14:12 calls it the "faith of Jesus" I think. Its faithful or not, God determines, not man, I would guess. The "Us and Them" mentality always tries to enrich those running the "Us" group. Given the state of JWs now, it seems all organized religion is now officially just organized apostasy diverting attention to everyone else.
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Can a religion claim: Only we have the truth?
by Kalos intruth is self-evident (things like: the whole is greater than its part ....).. truth is always right (things like: caring for the accident victim helplessly bleeding on the road ....).. claiming: only we have the truth is like claiming: only my university is useful.
history shows that many school/college drop-outs have made significant contributions to the society like many those who completed their education!
and on the contrary, many school/college drop-outs have made significant damage to the society like some of those who completed their education!
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Terminology the Society Hates?
by toweragent inin my most recent talk, i got counseled for using some terms that were not prefered.
for example i said "new testament" rather than "the christian greek scriptures".
i also used the term "gospel", but even worse, i made reference to the "synoptic gospels" and the "gnostic gospel".. i guess i never thought of it before, but when i looked at the societies information on the matter they always say things like, "the so-called new testament..." or "the so-called synoptic gospels..." why with all the "so-called?".
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I wonder how one should term Bethel UN NGO when it pops up in a Matthew 24:15 talk? Library club? Research committee? "Mother's" "boyfriend"?
I would guess Bethel's "smooth word" writing department (Dan11:32a) probably has a standards manual as many "preferred words" and phrases pop up often and all modern propaganda operations use formulaic methods consistently that mix words and messages hypnotically. The Bethel modern brainwash menu is highly polished and enforced for maximum obedience for when summer camp comes. The "organization" is already synonymous with "God", as is the GB "slave", for example. (That kind of diversion to man service will turn out to be a disaster, always has, always will)
Other delusions programmed into the JW grey matter, that aid the overall agenda and process, must be mathematically applied, and that pattern could be quantified if one wanted to take the time to reverse engineer the WT "diet" for this last JW generation, which is now a foreign body itself, just like the Governing Body central anti-Christian dictation unit rationalized and installed later, for this future effect, is also a "foreign object" to the classic "temple". They are an act that was introduced incrementally.
But like with any religious error, the more one reads the Bible, like Daniel 11:30-35, 41 and Daniel 8:11-14, Zech3:1-3, the more the Bible has hints exposing the actors, as usual, in time they are the ones who diverge from the "healthful words" and amass their own "sanctified" "teachers". Today's ear tickled JWs have been gradually morphed into today's Bethel TV show and UN doting globalist corporate commercial.
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The Tree of The Knowledge of Good and BadHave JWs got it correctly?
by Kalos inas for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.
(genesis 2:17).
jws interpret this tree as the symbol knowledge of good and bad, right of god to set standards for us; hence eating of it means snatching gods right to rule over usthus self-rule means ruination and death, and conversely gods rule means blessings and eternal life.. this interpretation has some intrinsic problems!.
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Defining "good and bad" or "right and wrong" or "good and evil" has equated to national governmental laws, ideologies, philiosophies, religions and much human speculation and research of knowledge derived from human experience that can be transmitted over generations. Thus it is a global hack to try to find "the truth", and even then "the truth" has to preserve itself with superior violence.
Whatever that tree may have been called or fully meant its global effects are now obvious as everyone is a personal judge attempting to determine "good an bad" for themselves and in some cases everyone else as well: world government.
Eventually those with all the gold and all the guns will determine "right and wrong" for everyone else they allow to remain. But the vanity and futility of the effort will remain constant, until of course the "Definer" decides to resolve the folly, even in the folly people could not figure out the meaning of the riddle for thousands of years. The answer is humans will never answer the question, its a checkmate.
The Big Brain Designer already knows all the answers and all the questions, the ones with the brains still have not figured out the brain question itself, we are just hacking the mere surface of the first layer.But I think JWs did nail it is really a "sovereign" question, but others share that basic understanding of human self-rule in the basic meaning and its global effects present even in today's temporarily half stable world. Eventually there are some in this world that will try to answer the question at global scale, because in the end someone has to be the ultimate judge, for everyone being the judge has equated to today's lost world.
The concept of world government is rationale. Who implements it is the question already contained in the fruit whose seed is about to "sprout". (imo)
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China overtakes U.S. as the the world's largest economy'--WT predictions upside down?
by exWTslave inchina overtakes u.s. as the the world's largest economy': imf says.*.
again problem for writing committee of jws?
after ussr disintegration, jws said: now we have only one world power (south king) on the world scene, and north king will appear in its own time, may be as one of the former ussr state or as some other communist country.. but now equations are now totally upside downwith a communist country replacing the south kings as the world power!?.
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Actually it will all work out just fine for WT fiction department, imo.
The trick at Watchtower writing will be to continue the globalization-does-NOT-equate-to-world-government mental backwardization of Jehovah's witnesses so the final cycle requirement is not comprehended - instead it is simply "the end". That is continue the delusion the "7th King" "King South" is now nationally dominant in finality, when in fact globalizing world power, the actual King North "8th King" globalizing engineering, have been clearly existent since even the WW1 "gravy train" and Federal Reserve monetary global plumbing founding (1913), and that has four cycles, a last one is required. In fact there has been, for the last 100 years, a national power system "south" and progressively dominant GLOBALIST "north" power system "polarity" identifiable in global reality.
"North", "top of the world", "south", "bottom of the world", globalist versus national. It is actually quite in-the-face obvious now. As the "north" "south" concept simplifies it goes global at the same time in both "poles". Shoot, half the videos on YouTube are probably about world government.
For Bethel to act like they do not see that simple logic is, of course, SUSPECT. Geez, Canadian tweenagers do their own documentaries on that reality of world power, everyone and his mother, but Bethel, knows about the super-corporate based financial and military globalizing power system and their generic national sovereign target. Bethel acts as if it is 1921 forever and ever, so JWs will be dated dupes while "from the mouth of babes" little kids expose the real global system on YouTube, for God knows JWs don't say a peep about anything of modern relevance due to Bethel subversion.
For example, "King South" did not implement the Federal Reserve, the "King North" globalizing bankers in a private global super-corporation did that through the US national system. Now ALL the central banks hub to London and the Fed, NONE of them answer to national governments, the super-bankers give them the orders and the debts. (Hence how Dan11:42-43 is set-up: national debt, globalist "master creditor", very simple)
This is now all old hat historical information to many people. This is not avant-garde "investigative journalism", this is how it is to anyone doing a bit of beyond-the-mainstream research. This is rapper lyric fodder now, even they are looking for fresher subject matter.
Thus Bethel ACTING like the "USSR" was "King North" is ridiculous, when obviously Daniel 11:45 is BLATANT world government only capable in the "NORTH" 8TH KING globalized system. That gives the deceptive WT writing dept. a perfect final diversion opportunity to prop in Russia or any other hoax decoy "King North" proxy "bogeyman" for opposing the real globalist King North (8th King) final move to world government (Dan11:42-43), and sell that to JWs as "Daniel 11:44 brothers!" as Bethel goes through its own corporate "controlled demolition".
Thus WT "writing" has a perfect exit strategy and a dense smokescreen to leave behind to envelope JWs for quite some time as JWs ride the Org-Titanic all the way down, believing such blatant GB stringed deluded fictions. JW "theology" has now been arranged into a handy false "self fulfilling prophecy" that can implode the org, and JWs will think "prophecy fulfills brothers! get ready to welcome Jesus home!", when King North is who "comes home" first as world government.How many years will it take for JWs to even start scratching their heads when this Bethel coup really hits and passes? We can only guess.
It will NOT be the JW pumped "the end". In reality the final actually "King North" opposing US/UK "King South" and "7th King" national sovereignty will be neutralized by financial checkmate (Dan11:42-43), "flattened" in the global "normalization" of sovereign impotence and equalized (Rev17:11-18) with everyone else in the national global system into "King North" world government to dominate its particular regional union, as "Queen South", as all equate to the final system prior to you know whos arrival. "King South" "HE", becomes the subservient "Queen South" "she" in Daniel 11:42—just like old school Cleopatra, the last "Pharaoh" of "Egypt". We get it now, its common sense.
If they pop in Hillary Clinton, "neo-Egypt" "queen south", as US President,... well that would be just too poetic.
The US, Brit, China, Ruskies, etc all "goes down" in national sovereign independence into "8th" "King" final globalized sovereign domination. It is now just common sense, one can explain it without prophecy as well, it is just logic the 7th King is deposed by the 8th, hence 7-to-8, hence "south" and "north", hence world government sovereignty absorbs the national sovereigns in time. It is logical national sovereignty is not the ultimate sovereignty, it just individually nationally conglomerates into world government ultimate sovereignty (Rev16:13-16), one last cyclic transition is still required, it is not "the end", it is a final CYCLE about to START.
JWs will have aided the process for quite some time by covering up the obvious logic "King" "NORTH" means world government, always has, easy to see, it is what it is. Bethel is just another "King North" system global "invasion" (Dan11:40) as Daniel 11:41. (Dan11:32a) Any "new king north everyone!" will meet the King North controlled (Dan11:32a) Bethel agenda. Bethel is now an act and a hoax production factory for the JW disinformation sector to be bewildered when the cycle STARTS. It won't be "the end" but for Bethel, the world system plods along to King North over several final years. -
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Let's suggest some programs for tv.jw.org
by rebel8 inweekday afternoons: a soap opera featuring judicial committees, demon possessions, and wives clamoring to be the ones who host the circuit overseer's lunch.
saturday mornings: sparlock cartoon.
friday evenings: reality show featuring jw dating.
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KMOL: Awake! 40 Year Old News That Doesn't Matter
How to not connect Bible prophecy to even a dated world view by repetition of the past skewed for an agenda while highlighting the art of ignoring global events everyone and his mother sees on YouTube to form the modern events sluggish JW "Rip Van Winkles" of our time.
Meet Your New Clergy, And So It Goes...
Discuss the similarities of the traditional "Church" cleric system and the JW "Congregational" organizational hierarchy as a western corporate, urban veneered church clone, where the Bethel modern clergy now requires even the laity to dress just like them by the Bethel distinguishing attractive dress code so as not to "gnat" stumble anyone, for fear they may not also "gulp down" some Bethel UN NGO "camel".
Meet The 8 Headed Bethel Pope
Explain how the Bethel collective "Pope" and organizational cloned Papal system slipped under JW radar as just an urbanized modern updated version of the Catholic system—the same "dictator" contained in a handy "board of directors" aligned "divine" "committee" acting as one totally "evil slave" spiritually dead "body", while endlessly claiming the exact opposite.
Understanding The Corporate Trinity Concept
Dissect the JW Trinity of western corporate motifs that comprise their "mother of all idols" in an organizational triad of "Governing Body", "Bethel", "Slave", and show how all three are One! One God's "Organization" so holy it has sanctified and endorsed the UN with its own internal UN NGO version install. Now all JWs can ride and also worship the wildbeast at the very same time as worshiping the org idol and its component mini-idols!
Mr. Lett's Carbon Monoxide Neighborhood
Allow Stephen Lett to address kindergarten JWs for a solid three hours as the Bethel Alex Jones with a frontal, mid, and rear lobotomy. New JW doomsday products will be highlighted, like the "Bug Out Book Bag", Bethel Army Knife, and plenty of already "life water" dehydrated Watchtower snackables for the road to camp.
Face the Apostate Nation
Examine Bethel's modern apostate hallmarks and diversion tactics.You N
Explain how, although JWs preached for 80 years that the first two United Nations related global presentations were prophecy, and they hadn't heard nothing from the UN for 45 years, the 1990 3rd UN presentation was not prophecy, not much of a newsworthy event, and instead great reason to become UN NGO instead—for the New "You-Knighted Nations" freshly rebranded world government is God's Kingdom on Earth! Final "new light" folks, we are WITH "Kingy North" y'all, he is OK with God and Christ now!
Modern Doomsdayer
Explain how to craft a premature "end of the world" delusion, right in Jehovah's witnesses, butter and baste the JW mind to perfection with it "to the effect Jehovah's day is here" prematurely, even though the Bethel apostasy is unexposed—in fact everyone else is "The Apostate"—and use that notion and delusion to conceal all Bethel reality while the UN achieves world peace instead through a final global war cycle postponing doomsday for everyone, there is no doomsday!!—it was just the standard global tribulation "problem" for world government "solution" con! -
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JW TV - One Further Step Towards Making the Organization Soft & Cuddly
by steve2 inone of the more astonishing developments within the organization in recent years is the muting of the more "out there" behaviors of this once fiercely confrontational and proud end-times religious group.. members were unapologetically no part of the world and couldn't give a rat's ar*e what you thought of them.
whereas the organisation fostered an outlook of warning the "wicked" world of the imminence of its destruction at the hands of the almighty - and spared no effort in doing so - nowadays the organization is sucking in its more "loose cannon" elements.
in the place of these elements is a sparkling, smiling, airbrushed group of worshippers who parade their wholesome settled lifestyle to win converts.
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What news? is what I wonder. JWs have been backwardized even 40 years behind the global times. They going to talk 911? UN NGO? Sub prime mortgage scandal? Derivatives set up? Market globalization? High frequency trading? Inter-Continental Exchange? Central banking counterfeting and debt creation scam? The IMF? Council on Foreign Relations? Global NATO? Global War on Terror? USSR aint King North? 300 Trillion US and EU debt and unfunded liabilities? The post Cold War 3rd UN placement that slipped off the Bethel and JW radar? The Bethel apostasy?
What can a 50 years behind ministry possibly talk about? Even the 700 Club types are now talking about some of that stuff and more. What planet does Bethel live on? This tragic comedy in the making is actually getting very interesting now.
What we can expect is Stephen Lett addressing a kindergarten class in the infantile JW style Bethel is now getting "famous" for, the JW lobotomy continues. "Now time to go to the dairy farm boys and girls!", it's a wonderful day in the neighborhood... It's comical, yet sad, at the same time. Blue pill central.
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Strange situation
by Gorbatchov inhi folks,.
the rank and file is now in a strange situation.. it is clear that the jw leadership is in for a huge change.
the type / anti type change makes clear that they make a u-turn.. it's clear that with this changes the current doctrine are temporary.
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@Phizzy
Yes instead of just go with the first reaction designed into any known scam deploying a subterfuge we can reverse engineer a few publicly available Bethel operation details instead and draw some other conclusions. Such as the shadow board that actually runs the corp. By that we know the GB is just the political front group whose dominance is also in attention and diversion, yet not one of them wrote one single classic JW book, they are just good at taking credit, after the fact for the whole thing; so JWs buy that "holy-by-association" ploy as the GB also project onto themselves the reputation of at one time vanguard Christians. The GB are not "Christian", they are the exact opposite, hence the diametric and "faithful slave" grandiose claims. JWs eat it up now, like the Catholics and the Pope, its the same thing, different clown suit.
Now people try to discredit the whole International Bible Students movement as if it is all the same GB corruptions since 1976. Thus by association with today's "lawless one" Bethel's reputation is also projected for the opposite effect upon the past ministry the whole first cycle of prophecy is also discredited. (2Pet2:1-3) And since the global cycles repeat, as does prophecy (for they are mirrors), the main pattern in the WW1 cycle is also now not studied as closely as it should be. Contrary to denial and popular opinion, the League of Nations development, that just so happened to pop up after 200 billion was channeled in the Federal Reserve monetarily fueled gravy train through the WW1 cycle, is not innocuous and by the way, it is the reason why the world war cycle is run. Again in WW2 and again in the Cold War. (The "disgusting thing" "causes desolation" for a cyclic reusable reason: its own profit and presentation, over and over);
Thus what started as the League of Nations will now irreversibly complete its global government goal. It is not that surprising the world needs a world government, it is a natural evolution of the nation-state system to complete its synthesis into integral world government, it makes sense in reality. The problem was national sovereigns not so keen on relinquishing their national direction to the overall global greater objective. The solution? Bankrupt them into submission (Dan11:42-43, Hab2:7) then become the globalized wealth recovery system "global solution" now fully in supra-national international super-corporate control.
Thus the national "problem" already has the world government financial "solution" ready for recovery at that time. And in the process the national sovereign irresponsible politicians with limited insight will be the "problem" requiring a wiser global technocratic guidance system. (Isa19) In time people will accept the "solution" because the "problem" will be very real, well identified by that time, and the "solution" will actually be the true "solution". World government always has been the real "solution". Its grander objectives and agenda, also now being revealed, are what is not so accommodating to the average Joe; the principle of global government is valid, the ones carrying it out are not, they are mere men, its a pipe dream beyond human true capability of permanent success. (Rev17:12)
And thus the first cycle microcosm of meaning in WW1-to-world-goverment cycle, will have a final cycle with the exact same objectives, but at enormous ten fold global scale. In reality the WW1-to-League_of_Nations cycle is the ominous trigger cycle that set the theme for the next 100 years plus, not just in military but financial and industrial dimensions for the globalization acceleration pictured in that cycle whose function has always been: producing globalized world government for real. Thus it is evident even without prophecy, the whole world for the last 100 years has been working for world government completion whether they know it or not. World war is the main gravy train, accelerant, and cyclic event.
(Even the Cold War was a global war, just "cold" in nature as termed. That unique nature (Dan11:29) is how the WW1-2-3 cycle of cycles, actually there, is broken from public awareness by that "Cold War is not WW3" break. In reality all the global wars result in a UN related presentation to cap off the cycle, 1-2-3-4. I mean it sort of explains itself after it happened 1-2-3 times and thus not seeing the Cold War as a 3rd cycle is why this UN 1-2-3 thing is not so easy to see until it is pointed out. Bethel aids the breaking from that reality as well.)
The UN was just the "image", blueprint, nucleus; world government as a whole super-structure global is what crystallizes the whole military and financial true power structure and it is inevitable that is where this final cycle will lead in time. Thus selling doomsday through uncertainty in theories, religions and now fully at Bethel as well, actually AIDS the whole overall final world government cycle—the worse things look in the "problem" cycle, THE BETTER the world government "solution" will appear in the recovery phase (Isa41:1) and seem necessary for it will be necessary. (That "admiration" by "recovery hope" principle is present in Rev13:3-4, and Rev17:8, and WW1 and WW2 and the Cold War (in its own way) as well)
Thus one does not have to be a prophecy tracker, but just a world cycle aware person to see these are cycles, they repeat and the goal has always finished the cycle in 1914-1919, 1930-1945, 1947-1990, and this final one will be the same thing, but in final scope and function for real world government "placement". It is so clear from the world-war-to-world-government cycle itself it is intuitive, now the globalizing cyclic reality and function is also predictable EVEN WITHOUT "prophecy". Its a 1-2-3-4 to world government, plain and simple, it explains itself now.
On stealing JW billions:
Now in public record they already liquidated almost a half billion in US real estate holdings alone in the last 5 years. Imagine ALL their investment holdings internationally and it is within reason to assume they have LIQUIDATED a billion in assets in just 5 years globally. What are we stupid here? Well for Bethel yes, JWs are trained to be trusting, obedient and thereby stupid so the guards won't say a peep. Now if we project what it is like to turn a JW dollar into 10 dollars reliably especially by slave labor, we see the magnitude of the holdings still in WTBTS sphere may very well be a couple billion. Thus overall for black market investment by insiders, JW land was the perfect ROI scenario, and better yet they did it with JW dollars, not their own. But any investor would realize the slave labor ratio was a lucrative turnover in the JW history. And that is how they turn 1 dollar into 10, maybe more.
Now just imagine how well immersed they are in the hedges by the designers of the casino. It will be like taking AIG down, but with NO BAILOUT! The globalists will also make BILLIONS on the "Bethel goes down in the third" derivatives bet! This whole thing is almost ridiculous and surreal it is so obvious what is going on at Bethel, it is truly "uncanny". There are more red flags than one can count.
My call would be this is a cycle coming up, not to "the end" but the final process to world government completion, and that takes s few years overall. Don't buy the JW "the end" hype, they have to awaken to reality in the process. That hype aids the overall process by confusion and anxiety. Actually pity them they will need it explained, they are that lost, we are talking 40 YEARS off course in prophecy AND globalization-to-world-government modern basics, I mean JWs are now, by Bethel subversion, truly drawkcab ssa. -
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Strange situation
by Gorbatchov inhi folks,.
the rank and file is now in a strange situation.. it is clear that the jw leadership is in for a huge change.
the type / anti type change makes clear that they make a u-turn.. it's clear that with this changes the current doctrine are temporary.
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Yes it is prophetic and historic and logical and formulaic all at the same time. Daniel 11:42-43 is a unique prophecy due to the explicit literal nature of the meaning. It is in the face literal global bullion control as what means global sovereign control in the end, because regardless how they extend the USDollar all currency systems have an initial wealth store foundation like gold and silver the classic true wealth base of power. And a global actual gold bullion coup, already well on the way in real control, will mean that controlling supra-national entity will direct all monetary final systems, and they can transition in controlled manner to a global monetary system. Its all now basic formula already present in the whole post 1913 central banking model, etc. (It is why Daniel 11:42-43 wealth/asset control must precede Dan11:45 world government; prophecy reflects reality)
Interestingly the true wealth store is not currency, thus currency is not money and it is not wealth but as the global dollar-based " Ponzi scheme" runs globally fiat currency is perceived as "as good as gold" until the shtf. Thus as the real Daniel 11:42-43 unwinds and the gold "base plate of national sovereignty", as gold is also known as by some, goes into globalized control the national sovereign power will also shift en-masse to the final wealth globalization system.In the meantime the gradual removal of gold from the US currency backing since 1933-1971, while at the same time making it the global reserve currency was indeed a masterful transition. Incrementally the banks are the ones who multiply the currency as debt, and a certain amount of that debts fails and in such the securitized collateral is reliably amassed into the corporate structure for zero redistribution in that "immortal corporation" complex global in principle and reality. Thus it was just a matter of time national governments would also be "foreclosed" and in that process will "funnel" their assets, including people, into world government ownership all legalized at then international legal levels who will also run the martial system monopoly process.
Thus the supra-national structure is ALREADY operating in all the world wars. And since WW1, WW2 and the Cold War all ended their cycles into a UN world government formative presentation that is what the cycle has served now three times in history, it is a wealth and power consolidation formula. JWs did explain the first two UN placements (1919, 1945) but Bethel bypassed the 3rd UN placement significance of 1990 after the Cold War ended. Thus the actually UN 1-2-3-4 historic and prophetic UN forming quadruple super-cycle is also broken by apostate and impostor run Bethel.
Thus when JWs coulda, shoulda, woulda seen a UN 4th cycle coming up as a global requirement and reliable repeating cycle and formula, instead "the end" can be sold to JWs instead as that cycle begins, not ends. By losing the meaning of the 3rd UN placement in 1990, the rest of the JW diversion was accomplished. Now as the world itself readies a fourth cycle of world war and financial "tribulation" by design, JWs can be tossed into Daniel 11:42-43 global events, thinking it is Daniel 11:44, and Bethel assets will also go bye-bye. This is because Bethel has also prematurely and overly advanced JWs TOO FAR into Daniel 11 at Dan11:44, and that also aids the delusion that aids the hoax.
Now if we add this all up a grand hoax is enabled and in my opinion well beyond coincidental, random and accidental, this baby is BY DESIGN.
All I could say now is it cannot be "the end", it is the final global financial transformation cycle (probably aided by a controlled world war, as usual, in some manner) whose national financial compromise will mean a globalized checkmate final wealth "solution" will also be enabled and will emerge as Daniel 11:42-43 truly culminates (into Dan11:44-45) and that will take some years to finalize to fully operable under world government.
In any event JWs will be sidelined for the initial part of the final cycle, duped and derailed, ministerially broke and "scattered", as that is also a goal of the Bethel operation.
IMO at some point JWs recoverable will connect up the UN 1-2-3-4 certainty, while the final and fourth cycle is active and will make the required final announcement. Thus the whole original Daniel 12 cycle JWs explained actually replicates the first UN related world-war-to-world-government cycle (1914-1919), in this final world-war-to-world-government cycle, as the global cycle ALSO repeats. This is why prophecy repeats, because world cycles it predicts also repeat to merge into history, not actually "prophecy" at that point.
As they truly complete world government a number of years from now, then it is when the Christ arrival is enabled and that is why Christ arrives AFTER the "tribulation of those days" ends into first that world government "abyss rise". In reality a whole lot of global developments occur in Matthew 24:29 true meaning even before Christ shows up. Bethel simply bypasses all that as "the end" and "the tribulation" are just a synonym at bethel, when in reality the final cycle is going to be a drawn out global affair and it will lead to UN based world peace and recovery, not at all what JWs today are expecting, in fact all of Christendom is also caught up in the same premature end delusion, Bethel was bagged lastly, to be added to the whole hoax complex by 1976 GB guidance. The whole GB concept is a fraud controlling council. (2Thess2:11-12);btw, Daniel 11:40 is the "King North" globalization expansion accelerated since 1990. Daniel 11:41 is King North running Bethel as per Daniel 11:32a and Dan8:12-13. Of course lawless Bethel will not self-incriminate themselves in the 1990 3rd UN placement shenanigans and cover-up like the UN NGO, hence their own apostasy is also in the self-same prophecies they now conceal with fraud WW2 era and USSR "interpretations".
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Strange situation
by Gorbatchov inhi folks,.
the rank and file is now in a strange situation.. it is clear that the jw leadership is in for a huge change.
the type / anti type change makes clear that they make a u-turn.. it's clear that with this changes the current doctrine are temporary.
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I think the "u-turn" is canceling the ministry, covering it with "prophecy fulfilling brothers!" and doling out the assets to the victors in the hedge funds. As that unwinds the new focus on the web, and the Bethel Pied Piper "TV station" is to reliably issue final commands independent of the org congregational structure as halls and other assets go into seizure to some degree. JWs can use their phone to recive "impractical direction" from the "life saving org" live and real-time.
I mean who says the end is very near, and says they believe it, yet builds a 15 million dollar new HQ? Who gives "obey any command" directives "at that time" yet opens a TV station? Its crazy.
Thus all the mixed signals and final destruction of the JW theology to craft an exit hoax is equating to the ministry called to an end by Bethel's own mouth amidst "the attack on Babylon the Great" which will actually be the corporate raid of Bethel sold to JWs with that misapplied prophetic expectation subterfuge.
By the time Lett and Loesch are sipping martini's in Switzerland with their big retroactive paychecks, JWs will still be looking to the sky for Christ, thinking it is surely "the end brothers!!" to awaken to the reality of a global tribulation to resolve to present world government well before Christ arrives. JWs will be left holding the empty bag, a laughing stock. Thus it will take a couple YEARS, or three, for JWs to comprehend they have been DUPED for BILLIONS, BIG TIME! It was a scam from the second the GB seized Bethel control in 1976, that is the scam control center aided by an internal network of expert high dollar racketeers, not Christian at all but actors with a multi-billion dollar big score motive.
JWs were the perfect dolts to be guarding such a nest egg, zzz zzz zzz. It was irresistible to the global fox. There is no way the Bethel anomalies past and present, especially since the GB took power, are just random. It is a gradual positioning operation, few, inside and outside JWs will comprehend what just happened inside Bethel. I actually feel sorry for the average duped JW, it is Bethel that is the true culprit and misleading deceiver center.
Strangely the "Governing Body Show" has been the main diversion and distraction aiding the deployment of the whole scam. The rest is just echoes of the past, plagiarism and vain traditions enveloping a hyper-pious attitude all equating to a total hoax soon to hit JW land. It will not be "the end", it will be the global transition to loss of national sovereignty to world government that many see coming by financial intrigues aiding a huge wealth and monetary globalization requirement for recovery and that will take YEARS to unfold.
The whole modern JW "theology" is just a big fake sideshow to toss JWs into that final cycle thinking it is "the end" from the words of the Bethel Pied Vipers piped right into the JW brain year after year and into the corporate coup-de-grace period.
But at the same time the JW development is actually more interesting than any sitcom or related research development in the world at present because it is quite masterful in deployment and it is deployed into one of the most dated collective mindsets in all the world because JWs are 40 years behind not just prophecy, but also blatant globalization-to-world-government BASICS even little twelve year olds are explaining on YouTube, "from the mouth of babes", go figure—certainly not from the silver fork tongue mouth of the Bethel gold-plated aged snakes, the leaders of this JW ignorance campaign.
Thus JWs opening a "news station" is a strange irony and anchronism, their news is already 50 years old, Bethel is the cave of the JW Ripped-Off Van Winkles. -
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CHANGES? "-- Christ had taken Kingdom power in 1914, there RIGHTLY could be changes--" Karl Adams quoted in CoC, page 25
by prologos inwe hear of shocking changes to come, for old timers and young, were surprised before, saying perhaps: "how dare they-- the scriptues-- the early christians--" we might think, but yesterday,.
reading coc the above line came into view , and it struck me: here is the mindset in bethel.
power is invested in them, and they will change it, under the guise of ruling for christ.. i am, or was, primarily interested in doctrine, and these changes, (capitals mine) that adams, the head of the writing department, referred to during the research for the 'aid" book, was on governance in the congregation,.
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Well how have other apostasies fared in the end? That is what will befall Bethel soon. (Hos1:4-7, Zech3:1-5, 1Pet4:17, Dan8:13)