cobweb: Jehovah's Witnesses congregation's efforts to block inquiry squashed
FYI see the article in TODAY's print edition of the Guardian newspaper - bottom of page 4
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6268170572660736/_post/5759647921209344
darkspilver
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Charity Commision Report to be published "Shortly"..
by Slidin Fast indear all,.
it has been a while since my last update and i first of all wanted to reassure you that our inquiry into the watch tower bible and tract society and manchester new moston congregation of jehovah’s witnesses (mnmcjw) are still progressing.
as you can imagine we have gathered a large amount of evidence and we are now focused on analysing this information to ensure that we use it in the most effective way.. this is not to say that we will not accept any new evidence from anyone that wishes to provide it and i would once again like to thank all of you who have helped us in the past for the invaluable information you have provided.. secondly i wish to draw your attention to a press statement we will be making later today.
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JW's efforts to block sex abuse inquiry squashed
by darkspilver infyi.
the guardian, tuesday 4 april 2017. jehovah’s witnesses congregation's efforts to block inquiry squashed.
tribunal rejects claim investigation into charity’s handling of sexual abuse allegations amounts to religious discrimination.
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darkspilver
Link to decision on the UK government website:
Direct link to full 41 page official court decision (PDF)
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JW's efforts to block sex abuse inquiry squashed
by darkspilver infyi.
the guardian, tuesday 4 april 2017. jehovah’s witnesses congregation's efforts to block inquiry squashed.
tribunal rejects claim investigation into charity’s handling of sexual abuse allegations amounts to religious discrimination.
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darkspilver
FYI
The Guardian, Tuesday 4 April 2017
Jehovah’s Witnesses congregation's efforts to block inquiry squashed
Tribunal rejects claim investigation into charity’s handling of sexual abuse allegations amounts to religious discrimination
The Manchester New Moston congregation argued the investigation interfered with its human rights.
A Jehovah’s Witnesses congregation in Manchester has lost a legal attempt to block an investigation into its handling of sexual abuse allegations, after failing to convince a judge that the inquiry amounted to religious discrimination.
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NYTimes Article - Russia Moves to Ban Jehovah's Witnesses as 'Extremist'
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/world/europe/russia-moves-to-ban-jehovahs-witnesses-as-extremist.html?_r=0.
vorokhobino, russia — a dedicated pacifist who has never even held a gun, andrei sivak discovered that his government considered him a dangerous extremist when he tried to change some money and the teller “suddenly looked up at me with a face full of fear.”.
his name had popped up on the exchangalee bureau’s computer system, along with those of members of al qaeda, the islamic state and other militant groups responsible for shocking acts of violence.. the only group the 43-year-old father of three has ever belonged to, however, is jehovah’s witnesses, a christian denomination committed to the belief that the bible must be taken literally, particularly its injunction “thou shalt not kill.”.
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darkspilver
Thank you for posting a link to this in depth article from the New York Times
Thought this was interesting:
In the case of Jehovah’s Witnesses, the putative extremism seems to derive mostly from the group’s absolute opposition to violence, a stand that infuriated Soviet and now Russian authorities whose legitimacy rests in large part on the celebration of martial triumphs, most notably over Nazi Germany in World War II but also over rebels in Syria.
Jehovah’s Witnesses, members of a denomination founded in the United States in the 19th century and active in Russia for more than 100 years, refuse military service, do not vote and view God as the only true leader. They shun the patriotic festivals promoted with gusto by the Kremlin, like the annual celebration of victory in 1945 and recent events to celebrate the annexation of Crimea in March 2014. -
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TIME Magazine: Russian Supreme Court Considers Outlawing Jehovah's Witness Worship
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://time.com/4723456/jehovahs-witness-russia-supreme-court/.
russian supreme court considers outlawing jehovah's witness worship.
the russian supreme court could declare the jehovah's witnesses an extremist organization in a wednesday hearing, a move that would lead to the seizure of the church's headquarters near st. petersburg and the outlawing of the group’s organized worship.. in advance of the hearing, international concern has grown.
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darkspilver
Thank you for taking the time to post and provide a link to the Time magazine article
In 2015, the Russian Federation banned the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ website JW.org, and customs officials stopped shipments of Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Bibles, citing the possibility they were extremist literature.
Check out OrphanCrow's very interesting information regarding this:
Jehovah’s Witnesses are pacifists
No they're not - they're conscientious objectors - there's a differance
Jehovah’s Witness leaders have also asked their eight million members worldwide to write letters to Russia officials, including President Vladimir Putin and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, to ask them to intervene.
As has been discussed here on numerous threads....
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darkspilver
BBC are reporting on it now:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-39493918
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2017 Special Conventions.
by ToesUp injw special conventions.
who's going?.
are you "special" enough to be chosen?.
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One extra day of boring talks and experiences
thank you, that's very interesting
I thought they where just generally bigger in terms of (international) attendance rather than longer in length - now I know that they're a whole extra day longer!
So the Special Conventions are FOUR days long this year - including the extra day.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2017/
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Interesting new use for Kingdom Hall
by dozy inhttp://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-find-800-cannabis-plants-12839462.
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darkspilver
Hi dozy
cool! thank you for your link to that funny story!
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5941745005101056/alternative-uses-kingdom-halls-number-420
Is the place currently, now, a Kingdom Hall? Or was it at one point a Kingdom Hall? It is not clear.
The ITV story (one the UK's TV channels) is using a screenshot from Google Street view to illustrate their story.
Looks like the WT couldn't be bothered to take down the "KH of JWs" sign!!
Here's a link: https://goo.gl/maps/wdpYAQLnEP62
The colourful banner sign is for 'Street Feet Studios'
Check out this news story: http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/surprise-brand-new-studio-unveiled-8533096
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About the JW Russian action
by Gorbatchov inwhat i don't get about the russian petition action:.
watchtower launched at march, 21 the petition action.. in the instructions they write it can take 14 days for postal arrival in russia.. on april, 5 they expect legal clarification from the supreme court.. so, conclusion: the letters will arrive just around the day of clarification.. conclusion: this action is planned for media impact only.
if it was to make judges think, (what they don't do on a petition cry), .
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darkspilver
This is similar to what Watchtower did in Mexico to maintain ownership of the kingdom halls when laws were passed that all religious buildings became state property for the benefit of the community.
FWIW
TL:DR - This happened between 15 June 1943 to 1 April 1989 - no singing of songs, no collective prayers, no bible use in first call door-to-door - stopped being a religious society and became a civil education society instead.
Yearbook 1995 - Pages 212 to 213
You will recall that back in 1932 La Torre del Vigía de México had been authorized by the government. However, there were obstacles because of the restrictions that the law imposed on all religions. Objections were raised to the house-to-house activity of the Witnesses, since the law stipulated that ‘every religious act of public worship must be held inside the temples.’ For the same reason, objections were raised to our conventions in public places. This was a problem, because these conventions were constantly getting larger. Owning property also presented problems, because the law required that every building used for religious purposes had to become federal property.
For these and other reasons, the Society decided that it would be wise to reorganize, with a view to giving greater emphasis to the educational nature of our work. Therefore, on June 10, 1943, application was made to the Secretariat of Foreign Affairs to register La Torre del Vigía as a civil society, and this was approved on June 15, 1943.
With this rearrangement, singing at our meetings was discontinued, and the meeting places became known as Halls for Cultural Studies. No audible prayers were said at meetings, though nothing could prevent a person from saying an earnest prayer silently in his heart. Every appearance of a religious service was avoided, and truly our meetings are designed for education. When Witnesses in other lands began to call their local groups “congregations,” the Witnesses in Mexico kept on using the term “companies.” House-to-house visits by the Witnesses continued, and with even more zeal; but direct use of the Bible at doors was avoided. Instead, publishers learned the texts by heart so that they could quote them. They also made good use of the book “Make Sure of All Things,” which is a compilation of Scripture quotations on many subjects. Only on return visits and on studies (which were termed “cultural” instead of “Bible”) was the Bible itself used.
Yearbook 1995 - Pages 232 to 234
The organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses has always operated along the same basic lines in Mexico as in other parts of the world. Also, since 1931, the brothers have individually identified themselves as Jehovah’s Witnesses. Yet, for many years, in Mexico, it was necessary for the organization to function as a civil and educational society, as explained earlier.
In 1989, with the approval of the Governing Body, a letter was written to all the “companies” saying that as of April 1, we would be operating in Mexico as a religious organization. Afterward, in the June issue of Nuestro Ministerio del Reino (Our Kingdom Ministry), which was changed from being called Informador (Informant) de la Torre del Vigía, further details were given. From then on, the Bible would be used from door to door, and prayers would be offered at meetings. Later, we began to sing songs at the meetings.
You can just imagine the rejoicing this brought to the congregations! Tears of joy streamed down the faces of the brothers in the Halls for Cultural Study, or Study Halls (which now became Kingdom Halls), and at the conventions and assemblies, when collective prayers and singing began. Furthermore, direct use of the Bible in our door-to-door witnessing infused the brothers with increased zeal, made their work more effective, and gave them great satisfaction. Without fully realizing it, we had also established a foundation from which to defend our Christian way of life legally.
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Man answers the door naked when JW's appear..
by James Mixon inhttp;www.worlstarhipop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmg115hx2qp8inyuo.went too far, man answers the door naked when jw's appear..https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=akj2w94el_a...oh hell search, went to far, man answers the door naked when jw's appear, a young black male......it was e-mail to me and i'am using the same address but not working for me,hopefully you will find it.
a young jw child was present, not good.......
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darkspilver
I believe the video is actually from just over a year ago
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDJIKbvLgv3/
his instagram is: https://www.instagram.com/finesse_revenue/
