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  Apostasy: The Movie - Directed by Daniel Kokotajlo

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  daniel kokotajlo's new film apostasy has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. apostasy.

  family and faith come into conflict for two jehovah’s witness sisters in manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.. this fresh, unadorned first feature from director dan kokotajlo carries an unmistakable note of authenticity from its very first scenes.

  set in a jehovah's witness community in england, the film's strength and power lies in its directness.. apostasy depicts the growing rift in a family — a mother and two daughters — who are rigorously devoted to their religion.

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  Review from The Hollywood Reporter - with interesting comment regarding the film's title
  

  
  

  Apostasy: Film Review | San Sebastian 2017
  

  The Hollywood Reporter, Monday, October 9, 2017

  Siobhan Finneran, Molly Wright and Sacha Parkinson lead the cast in writer-director Daniel Kokotajlo's debut, a UK drama premiering at the long-running festival.

  Blood proves thicker than (holy) water in writer-director Daniel Kokotajlo's debut Apostasy, one of the year's strongest British films. A beautifully balanced glimpse into the world of Jehovah's Witnesses set in a humdrum corner of Manchester, it premiered at Toronto then belatedly emerged as one of the more buzzed New Directors contenders at San Sebastian.

  Set for UK release via Curzon, this downbeat affair should parlay festival acclaim into niche theatrical distribution and small screen exposure. To do so it must overcome a title ("an act of refusing to continue to follow, obey, or recognize a religious faith") that's both tricky to pronounce and too bald a label for the screenplay's complex contents.

  Kokotajlo handles some potentially melodramatic plot developments with tact and audacious restraint. Indeed, he takes the very bold step of eliding major incidents which most filmmakers would place front and center. Dividing the story into discrete chapters with cuts to black screen, or sometimes to Bible extracts presented on title cards, Kokotajlo and editor Napoleon Stratogiannakis convey the impression that we are being allowed controlled glimpses into tightly-controlled lives.

  This approach risks clinical or mannered results, but in Kokotaljo's hands the emphasis is firmly and profitably upon the characters and their interplay. Crucially, he elicits a trio of exceptional performances from his three female leads.

  While undeniably critical in tone and ultimately sympathetic with Luisa's increasingly spiky rebelliousness, Apostasy takes appropriate care to show balanced respect for Jehovah's Witness beliefs, and speaks to much wider issues of fundamentalism, institutional repression and individual free will. It's a timely, sensitive and intelligent work of cinema for which opportunity will now surely knock.

  READ FULL REVIEW: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/apostasy-1045595
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  When did the recording of prayers stop? Why?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was just listening to the annual meeting recording posted here in another thread.

  about half way through it, a prayer was offered.

  i was wondering if the recorder (and i have no idea if this was a person making an official recording or just some independent person making one) was going to keep the recording device on for the prayer.

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  Yes and no

  The audio/video recording of prayers is all OK, no problem - there are prayers written in the Bible

  The issue is the audio/video play-back of recorded prayers as part of worship with those listening saying amen at the end - that is not allowable

  Each congregation listening to the recording of the Annual Meeting will have had their own prayers said by locals.

  Those congregations listening live on Saturday morning will have had the prayers broadcast from the Annual Meeting.
  

  If it's live, it's OK, if it's recorded, it's not.

  There was a letter reminding elders about this when the 'live' broadcast links started a couple of years ago - with references to various WT publications - look it up if you're interested
  
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  Apostasy: The Movie - Directed by Daniel Kokotajlo

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  daniel kokotajlo's new film apostasy has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. apostasy.

  family and faith come into conflict for two jehovah’s witness sisters in manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.. this fresh, unadorned first feature from director dan kokotajlo carries an unmistakable note of authenticity from its very first scenes.

  set in a jehovah's witness community in england, the film's strength and power lies in its directness.. apostasy depicts the growing rift in a family — a mother and two daughters — who are rigorously devoted to their religion.

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  Thanks cobweb

  Interesting comment in the Guardian's review about the 'other film':...
  

  I have to say that Apostasy exposes the slightly preposterous drama of Richard Eyre’s new film The Children Act, with a similar plotline about Jehovah’s Witnesses, based on the Ian McEwan novel. Apostasy is more knowledgeable, less excitable.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5640312363941888/children-act-movie-ian-mcewan-directed-richard-eyre
  
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  ANNUAL MEETING LETTER - To Zimbabwe congregations

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a nonprofit corporation .

  watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania .

  private bag wg-5001, westgate, zimbabwe telephone 08677 004 012; 0772 472 403/4 .

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  Hi The Fall Guy

  yeah, thanks, I posted this a couple of days back, on Saturday..... in the 2017 Annual Meeting thread.....
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5134799058501632/_post/6251129845317632
  
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  At the annual meeting right now . . .

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm at the recorded meeting right now.

  trying to hide my disgust sitting up front listening to geoffrey jackson quibble about the pharisaical minutai of sanctification vs. vindication.

  the audience is thrilled that they now have 'permission' to say god's name can be vindicated.

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  neat blue dog: Stephen Lett just said that God gave Jesus "immorality" in the heavens. The audience laughed and he corrected himself.
  

  Interesting.....
  

  LOL they removed the “rewarded with immorality immortality” f#ck up by Stephen Lett from the Sunday rebroadcast.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/74rger/annual_meeting_2017_megathread/do31auq/
  
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  I'm starting a Counter-Watchtower magazine

  by Counter-Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  im starting a counter-watchtower magazine for everyone to give to their jw friends and family or just to give to those that come to your door.

  the first issue is about the history of pyramidology of c.t.

  russel and under the start of rutherford along with some other things like pointing out the fact that no one knows the translators of the nwt or writers of the watchtower, "the two very things relied on to teach you".. its writen in such a way to be very repectful but to make the reader think, and hopefully the light come on.

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  skin: This reminds me of the magazines called Witchtower.

  haha, I was trying to think what it was called - thanks!
  

  You can download the two 'Bound Volumes' of The Witchtower here:

  Both years consist of 12 monthly issues, 192 pages total each year

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/Witchtower_2009.pdf

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/Witchtower_2010.pdf

  Some of the articles are 're-printed' online here:
  

  https://thewitchtower.wordpress.com/

  Then there is also....
  

  Young People Ask

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/ypc.pdf
  
  

  Our Kingdom (Boredom) Ministry

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/obm_01_2008.pdf

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/obm_02_2008.pdf

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/obm_03_2008.pdf

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/obm_04_2008.pdf
  
  

  Babylon the Great has Fallen / Revelation

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/babylon_e.pdf
  
  
  

  The English language Witchtower was based on a German language magazine called "Erbrechet!" ("Erbrechet!" means "Vomit!" but sounds like "Erwachet!" which is the German title of "Awake!".)

  Three 'Bound Volumes' are available:
  

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/Erbrechet_2008.pdf

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/Erbrechet_2009.pdf

  http://www.svhelden.info/pdf/Erbrechet_2010.pdf
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  Apostasy: The Movie - Directed by Daniel Kokotajlo

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  daniel kokotajlo's new film apostasy has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. apostasy.

  family and faith come into conflict for two jehovah’s witness sisters in manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.. this fresh, unadorned first feature from director dan kokotajlo carries an unmistakable note of authenticity from its very first scenes.

  set in a jehovah's witness community in england, the film's strength and power lies in its directness.. apostasy depicts the growing rift in a family — a mother and two daughters — who are rigorously devoted to their religion.

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  thanks cobweb for the Variety link

  
  Demonstrators Picket London UK Premiere of Apostasy

  Tonight - Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 6.00pm at Picturehouse Central Cinema

  Placard waving demonstrators outside front of cinema....
  

  https://twitter.com/bectu/status/917073690495471616

  https://twitter.com/CPHLivingWage/status/917121142015569921
  

  https://www.bectu.org.uk/news/2752

  https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/02/picturehouse-threatens-to-sack-striking-workers-in-dispute-over-pay
  
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  The Watchtower's Real Crisis

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when discussing the watchtowers financial problems, i've generally been of the opinion that they probably are not in a real financial crisis.

  i've come to believe that money may be something of an issue, but its wrapped up in a much larger problem.

  this came to me this morning when reading about the annual meeting.. i think the society's leadership is just plain out of ideas.

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  JeffT: I think they're cutting back on magazines, not to save money, but because nobody can think of anything to put in them.
  

  But then - if you look outside-the-box - and add the reduced magazine content to the JW Broadcasting Monthly Magazine Programme content, WT is actually saying the same amount of 'content' as pre-2005
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5956889756041216/_post/6294936632688640

  Of course it might not be the same quality, but it is still 'content'.
  
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. social
  2. current

  this just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.

  1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.

  6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.

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  Pistoff: As I figure it, the decrease in output from when I was a child is 97%. 24 magazines per year, 32 pages, down to 6 issues per year at 16 pages.
  

  Please EXPLAIN your maths - are you taking just about the magazines??
  
  Previously - pages
  

  Watchtower: 12 x 32 pages = 768
  Awake: 12 x 32 pages = 768
  Annual Total = 1,536-pages-a-year
  

  Future - pages
  

  (assuming public are 16 pages and study is 32 pages - not confirmed yet!)
  Watchtower (public): 3 x 16 pages = 48
  Watchtower (study): 12 x 32 pages = 768
  Awake: 3 x 16 pages = 48
  Annual Total = 864-pages-a-year
  

  Therefore a 43.7% reduction of pages designed/laid-out
  
  
  
  Previously - words
  

  Watchtower (Jan 15, 2005): 12,350 words x 12 = 148,200
  Awake (Jan 22, 2005): 11,300 words x 12 = 135,600
  Annual Total = 283,800-words-a-year
  

  
  Future - words
  

  (assuming public are 16 pages and study is 32 pages - not confirmed yet!)
  Watchtower (No 1, 2016): 5,230 words x 3 = 15,690
  Watchtower (Jan 15, 2016): 12,000 words x 12 = 1440,000
  Awake (No 1, 2016): 4,150 words x 3 = 12,450
  Annual Total = 172,140-words-a-year
  

  Therefore a 39.4% reduction of word content
  
  
  

  BUT - isn't JW Broadcasting's Monthly Programmes really a kinda magazine programe?
  

  JW Broadcast (Aug 2017) = 9,560 words x 12 = 114,720
  Annual Total = 114,720-words-a-year
  

  Therefore, including the JW Broadcasting Monthly Programmes - the WT is actually 'writing' the SAME amount of 'content' as previously
  

  Yeah, I know the public don't watch JW Broadcasting, but then, how many of the public actually read an entire magazine (haha, how many JWs did/do??)
  
  
  
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  Simplified study watchtower

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there seems to be some confusion over what is happening with the study edition of the watchtower - i notice it isn't mentioned in the letter to be read out.

  if, as seems likely, it is going to be dumbed down even further then i think this could be the first step to shortening the watchtower study (to 30 mins?

  ) - it is the only meeting not to have been reduced in recent years.

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  konceptual99: The Spanish edition of the study was turned into a single edition a while back.
  

  Oh yeah, I forgot that
  

  Here's the discussion / letter:
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5451540896677888/december-28-2016-boe-re-one-study-edition-watchtower-languages-other-english