It WAS the last Memorial before the assembly.
berrygerry
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last big convention-last memorial buzz
by scotoma inare others hearing this meme from speakers at their congregation?.
is it a newspeak technique for instilling a sense of urgency?.
if it is - it's more manipulative than 1975. it seems like a way of getting around over use of the word "soon", "just around the corner".. maybe after 100 years of waiting they feel they need to approach it from another angle.. i should mention that the qualifier "may" is added "this may be our last___________________ fill in the blank.. lots of wiggle room.
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Help locating video of Judicial Hearing asking if WTS is God's channel
by berrygerry insometime ago, i watched a video, which the offender secretly recorded, of his jc.. the elders asked a handful of times something to the effect:.
do you believe that the watch tower society is the faithful and discreet slave?
do you believe that the watch tower society is god's channel?.
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berrygerry
Hi:
Sometime ago, I watched a video, which the offender secretly recorded, of his JC.
The elders asked a handful of times something to the effect:
Do you believe that the Watch Tower Society is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? or
Do you believe that the Watch Tower Society is God's Channel?
or something to that effect.
It may have just been a recording that was posted on YouTube.
Anyone remember this and where it is on Youtube?
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Feeling disloyal
by stirred but not shaken ini've been visiting here for about a year or so, but didn't really feel compelled to participate other than reading the various posts that interested me.. there's been that uncomfortable feeling of being disloyal to god, the organization, many friends and relatives.. i've been associated since birth.
after 65 + years of service within this organization and actually enjoying that time, it troubled me to find myself wanting to express feelings that were contrary to all that time of "faithfulness".
those years were filled with progressive "privileges and responsibilities" even at a high level, and there was considerable success in our evangelizing activity.
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berrygerry
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Feeling disloyal
by stirred but not shaken ini've been visiting here for about a year or so, but didn't really feel compelled to participate other than reading the various posts that interested me.. there's been that uncomfortable feeling of being disloyal to god, the organization, many friends and relatives.. i've been associated since birth.
after 65 + years of service within this organization and actually enjoying that time, it troubled me to find myself wanting to express feelings that were contrary to all that time of "faithfulness".
those years were filled with progressive "privileges and responsibilities" even at a high level, and there was considerable success in our evangelizing activity.
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berrygerry
Stirred.
I'm heading out , but want to send you a message.
So please check in later today.
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How to cope with depression?
by make yourself ini know its very common for jws and ex jws to deal with depression.
maybe it's a side effect of cognitive dissonance or the whole outlook on life being a jw.
but what are some ways to cope with depression?
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berrygerry
Many great suggestions here.
As with any other medical situation, if the problem can be identified as well as triggers, then your battle is half over.
Meds may be necessary longterm, possibly only shortterm or even intermittently as the need arises.
The other suggestions for physical activity, diet, quite possibly supplements, work and home environments, are all valid.
As we know that our brain creates bridges from repetition, cognitive dissonance may impede quick repair of those bridges.
Personally, the last time that I talked to elders about meeting attendance and field service, and don't you always feel better afterwards, and I said No, I often feel worse, knowing that I cannot live up to what I and my family are being told that we are supposed to be doing.
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A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement
by TTATTelder inthe gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.
you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?
well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.
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berrygerry
Does sound like they are moving the money away from the US. How many accounts in the Caymans, one wonders??
Funny, I was thinking the same.
The justification can be: "Politics is turning on religion. It would be 'discreet' to pre-emptively find a safer haven."
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A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement
by TTATTelder inthe gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.
you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?
well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.
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berrygerry
The re-allocation of real estate and printing is not inconsequential.
Canada is printing for the US, which justifies the US sending "payment" for the mags. A legal way to launder money out of the US corps. that face liability issues. There are many legal ways for corps. to protect assets under numerous entities, esp. when they are multi-national.
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they died because they stayed
by Crazyguy inaccording to a video over at jwsurvey there was 3 congregations in the path of that supper typhoon that hit the philippines.
the government had told people in these areas to get out but the jw's stayed for thier thursday night meetings and then spent the night in thier kingdom halls to weather out the storm.
two of the 3 congregations even though their halls were destroyed they all survived but the third a hall in the worst hit area was not so lucky.
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berrygerry
They refuse to cancel a boasting session, how many end up stuck in the snow or getting into accidents, usually involving innocent people that are out there because of an emergency (often one that they didn't prepare for before the storm)?
Sorry, need to disagree with this one.
Our urban cong. with an extreme CoBE, regularly cancels meetings that the weather in which I'm out driving.
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10 Pragmatic facts why Jehovah's Witnesses can't face reality
by Terry in1.the organization itself denies access to reality and substitutes its own version, interpretations and meanings.. a.only watchtower approved publications are allowed.. b.no higher education is to be pursued.. c.no non-jw friends or associations are encouraged with their "outside" points of view.. d.no free-style questioning of doctrine or criticism permitted.
curiousity is verboten.. e.threat of being "marked" or disassociated looms over them.
2.between every real-world event and the rank and file jw's mind is a roadblock.. a.the moment of identifying is short-circuited by an interpretive moment of re-labeling in watchtower-speak.. b.all things happening are forced into a narrow storyline and propagandized as end times happenings leading to armageddon.. 3.social and personal identity is expunged and replaced by a collective persona: "jehovah's witness".. a.private thinking is red-flagged as selfish and sinful.. b.personal improvement, welfare and ambition is crushed and door-to-door ministry substituted as "worthy" endeavors.. c.self-conscious obsession permeates witness awareness as each person is transformed into a public spectacle of performance for judgement.. d.since you aren't an individual you don't really have a right to fall in love and marry or educate or earn.
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A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement
by TTATTelder inthe gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.
you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?
well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.
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berrygerry
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