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  Sebastian Ramos and his campaing in Brazil; how can they claim a right to shun you?

  by dgp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i suppose everyone on this board knows now about sebastian ramos and his campaign in brazil.

  he has filed a claim agains religious discrimination, to the effect that shunning (not disfellowshipping or disassociation) is forbidden, on the grounds that it amounts to religious discrimination.. this is a very easy point to see for someone who is out.

  it sort of extends the meaning of "religious discrimination", however, as it is usually understood.

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  Does anyone have information on the outcome as well as documentation somewhere online?
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  JUSTICE #15 - Parking Lot DFing

  by Amazing in

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  2. friends

  parking lot disfellowshipping .

  [i have changed the sequence of the justice series.

  i will post the other titles later.].

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  Would anyone be in contact with Amazing?
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  ONE REASON

  by snare&racket in

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  2. friends

  out of interest, and to formulate a cordial chat, would you give your top one reason for your belief or non belief?.

  my foremost 'one reason' for non belief is:.

  the historical evidence that provides an explination and timeline for how the modern religious doctrine's and dogma developed over time.. .

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  berrygerry

  The inherent LOVE (not just a desire for genetic sustenance) of parents for their children.
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  Jehovah's Witness elders were 'spiritually corrupt and morally bankrupt', court told

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovahs-witness-elders-were-spiritually-7258297.

  jehovah's witness elders were 'spiritually corrupt and morally bankrupt', court told end of widget id: 6806849, name: storycontent, view: articlerefresh .

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  The woman - now in her 30s - claimed fellow worshipper Sewell would kiss her on the lips and once gave her a massage in the living room of his home where he would also hold weekly Bible study groups.

  Many one of the reasons for the end of home book study groups.
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  The March 1, 1952 Watchtower says, "Go back... and Die!"

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "those who are acquainted with the situation in the congregation should never say hello or goodbye to him.

  he is not welcome in our midst, we avoid him.

  such an individual has no place in the clean organization or congregation of god.

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  berrygerry

  If you notice now on their site with the FAQ's that they do not even answer the question of Do You Shun.

  They try to make it appear that they do not shun.
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  should there be a rule against posting PMs ?

  by MissFit in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  most people feel that it is unethical to post private messages.. how ever there does not seem to be a posting rule against it.. some people unfamiliar with posting on boards may not realize that it is not done to post private messages .

  ( even though it would seem self evident with the word private in it.).

  so what do you think about making it an official posting rule?.

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  PM sent.

  JK.
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  Anybody know this kid? Sad Story!

  by Check_Your_Premises in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  sean patrick powell, 24, of aurora, il and formerly of grand haven, mi, at rest, november 21, 2006 in aurora, il.

  he was born on october 2, 1982 in ionia, mi.. sean is survived by his loving wife, xxxxx; and son, xxxxx; his parents, xxxx and xxxx of grand haven, mi; his sister, xxxx of norton shores, mi; his parents-in-law, xxxx and xxxx, sr. of aurora, il; his sister-in-law, xxxx; and brother-in-law, xxxx.

  ; his nieces and nephews, xxxx.

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  Legion Solo, please check for PM.
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  JW.ORG signs to be put on all Kingdom Halls! New directive.

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  so i have been told that all kingdom halls are to have a large jw.org sign placed prominently out the front..... can anyone confirm this?.

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  Just post it somewhere and then post the link.
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  Cognitive Dissonance in a Relationship

  by voodoo lady in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's a familiar feeling, not unlike the experience we might have within organised religion.. .

  i never really experienced this within org as i exited when i was a teenager.

  the problems and incongruencies that became apparent during that time seemed simply a result of developing a fully-functioning brain.

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  Do you mean something like when your spouse says: "if you make me choose between Jehovah's elders and you, then I choose Jehovah."?
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  What Do Mormons Really Believe? RE: The Nov. 8, 1995 Awake Magazine

  by D_Rolling_Kearney in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, and i have written a heavily-documented response to the official magazine of the jehovah's witnesses, awake!, that claims to teach what we believe.

  i saw an article from last year's watchtower about a guy who had barely been mormon for very long, and obviously did not know what we believe, who was given this magazine by jw's to show him "the truth.

  " he claims to have proven to himself that it was true from information on the lds church's website.

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  berrygerry

  If Mormons would allow alcohol and caffeine, they would be the better cult to choose from (just sayin')