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  major split among JWs

  by sidex in

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  i am a jehovah's witness from siberia.

  please tell us who knows what and where thesplits occurred after the death of rutherford.

  now in russia there are many schisms.. .

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  berrygerry

  Interesting that the Romanians have assemblies (with a massive choir).
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  Feeling sad over a wasted life in watchtower

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  it's been 12 years since i first read ray franz's books and the scales came off my eyes.

  by that time i was in my forties.. since 2002 i went back to school and have worked with 3 very professional organizations.

  but my biological clock is ticking away and while my peers are looking forward to retirement, i am only beginning.

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  Why does it seem that so many wake up after decades?

  Do you think WTS analyzes these numbers?
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  A Non J-Dub paying a visit to KingDumb Hall!

  by J-DUBBED in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was thinking of doing a pop-in visit when they're doing their thing(what ever that might be).

  to just see what it is that lures and hooks people, like our son.

  i was worried there is some sort of subliminal messages in audio or video that start to brain-wash a person.

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  It's the love-bombing that hooks new folks. The love that quickly disappears from most JW's once the newbie is baptized.

  The only non-born-in that I've seen baptized in a decade was remarkably love-bombed.

  I remember all of the old pioneer tricks, have your Bible Student over for meals so you count easy time.

  Once dunked, she was abandoned like nuclear waste.

  She always looked lost, lonely, and puzzled at the meetings. "Where did the love go?"
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  Feeling sad over a wasted life in watchtower

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's been 12 years since i first read ray franz's books and the scales came off my eyes.

  by that time i was in my forties.. since 2002 i went back to school and have worked with 3 very professional organizations.

  but my biological clock is ticking away and while my peers are looking forward to retirement, i am only beginning.

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  I hear you, sister, and I feel the same.

  When I see the constant pressure on kids to pioneer right out of school, it makes me sick.

  I am intelligent, but completely wasted my life.

  Instead of contributing to society, our family has been a leech.

  Hopefully, you have at least found employment that is either enjoyable, or, at least tolerable.
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  Lightbulbs

  by PhilJonesIII in

  1. social
  2. humour

  im sure someone must have posted this before but here goes.. q: how many jws does it take to change a lightbulb?.

  a : jws are not allowed to change lightbulbs.

  anyone attempting to introduce new light gets disfellowshipped.. .

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  They just sit in the dark until there is New Light.

  JW's make the best mushrooms.
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  Didn't the Governing Body tell us Israel is safe?

  by kneehighmiah in

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  2. friends

  i'm sure most people heard about this story that broke yesterday.. http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/19/world/meast/jerusalem-violence/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

  of couse the governing body would never encourage the brothers to go to unsafe areas like detroit or israel.

  sadly the brothers would believe it if the governing body told them drinking cyanide was safe.. .

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  Seriously, if they do believe Israel is safe for the preaching work, what next? Pioneering in Mecca?

  Great idea. Next International Convention in Mecca.
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  Anyone know of df'ing for taking a br. to Court (esp. if Cdn)?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  most jw's have been told that taking a fellow jw to court is wrong.. the shepherd book uses wts speak: "if an individual ignores god's word on this matter, it may affect his congregation privileges.

  " (italics theirs.).

  the following are from an interesting case in canada ( link ):.

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  berrygerry

  Most JW's have been told that taking a fellow JW to Court is wrong.

  The Shepherd book uses WTS speak: "If an individual ignores God's Word on this matter, it may affect his congregation privileges." (Italics theirs.)

  The following are from an interesting case in Canada ( link ):

  [16] Everyone in Canada has a constitutional right of access to Her Majesty’s courts as a litigant or as a witness. The punishment impending here (and imposed against the other litigants in the parallel proceedings) is for doing just that. Public policy dictates weighing that when considering the balance of convenience.

  [17] We could say a good deal about this topic. But since this appeal is about a stay and not about the final decision on judicial review, we will be brief. On the right of access to the courts, see B.C. G.E.U. v. A.-G. British Columbia 1988 CanLII 3 (SCC), [1988] 2 S.C.R. 214, 87 N.R. 241, and Crevier v. A.-G. Quebec 1981 CanLII 30 (SCC), [1981] 2 S.C.R. 220 at 236, 38 N.R. 541 (paras. 21-23). On merely threatening or deterring witnesses as criminal contempt, see R. v. Vermette (1983) 1983 ABCA 154 (CanLII), 44 A.R. 253 (paras. 5-11) (C.A.), affd. 1987 CanLII 51 (SCC), [1987] 1 S.C.R. 577, 584, 74 N.R. 221 (para. 10). And see the other cases cited in 3 Stevenson and Côté, Civil Procedure Encyclopedia, pp. 62-44 and 62-45 (2003).

  [18] One must also note s. 139(3) of the Criminal Code on obstruction of justice by attempting to dissuade someone from giving evidence, by means of threats.

  [19] We must emphasize that the issue here is not merely litigating in some forum topics such as who has jurisdiction, or when proceedings are premature. This is a question of express threats to harm someone for going to court or acting as a witness in court. Or of punishing him for having done so and (partly) won.

  [20] This is not judicial review of a jurisdiction decision, still less judicial review of a decision on the merits of an election. It is judicial review of punishment for merely having gone to court. The respondent is going beyond supervising the superior court, which would be upside down. It is emasculating the superior court.
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  I have nothing left in the tank, I need help

  by Yondaime in

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  2. experiences

  i dont have the willpower to attend meetings anymore.

  i'm literally on the sound system list every week.

  i'm either reading on sunday or tuesday, praying on tuesday nites, adjusting mics, passing mics, or working the sound system, or doing last minute parts for the service meeting.

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  berrygerry

  I dont have the willpower to attend meetings anymore. I'm literally on the sound system list every week. I'm either reading on Sunday or Tuesday, praying on Tuesday nites, adjusting mics, passing mics, or working the sound system.

  or doing last minute parts for the service meeting. Not to mention service on Saturdays and Sundays.

  I found doing the mics, and even reading, helped greatly for the meetings to pass.

  Doing parts, though, and service, can suck out of you.

  Try and see what you can escape from while keeping your sanity.

  If you can do nothing, go to a doctor, and tell him about your workload.

  He'll readily give you a note to take a break.

  Explain to the appropriate elder that you need to take a break to rebuild - and that you will be of zero use if you have a breakdown.
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  Anybody else relate, "Take me to Church" by Hosier to the KH and elders?

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. friends

  a good chunk of this song matches up to a life as a jw.. here are some lyrics and how i relate it.. .

  my lover's got humour she's the giggle at a funeral knows everybody's disapproval i should've worshiped her sooner (whole verse about perhaps a spouse who left first and shunned by all, and now the other spouse who finally left should have supported them long ago) if the heavens ever did speak she's the last true mouthpiece every sunday's getting more bleak a fresh poison each week (the gb say they are the 'mouthpiece' of god.

  this persons other is who revealed ttatt.

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  Never scrutinized the lyrics, but love the song.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses child abuse and judical comittees, YLE TV1 News 11/1/2014

  by tunnistaja.ee in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnoslbdatzc.

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  berrygerry

  Thank you for the post and the links.