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The BS Two Witness Rule - John 8
by berrygerry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
many posts have been made regarding the total bs 2 witness rule in order to protect molesters.. did not jesus dispense with this bs rule in john 8:17,18?.

i.e., the father witnesses all, therefore, only one human witness is required?.

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berrygerry

Gustav:
Glad to have you back.

This is for you.

WT Aug 15, 1987 p. 27 blithely says: "At least two witnesses are required to establish a charge of wrongdoing. "

And yet then, it totally ignores the very next verse: "I am one who bears witness about myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness about me.” "

Jesus had said in verse 12 that he was the light of the world.

In verse 13, the Pharisees challenged him, as he had no witness - " So the Pharisees said to him: “You bear witness about yourself; your witness is not true.” "

And yet Jesus' response was that because his Father bore witness, that that amounted to 2 witnesses.

So, if none other than Jesus proffered that his Father was able to bear witness in such an affair, then for heaven's sake, why is that enough for all of the child abuse taking place, and having taken place?
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Russia's Supreme Court Declares Jehovah's Witnesses Website Extremist
by AndersonsInfo in
1. jw
2. friends
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-s-supreme-court-declares-jehovah-s-witnesses-website-extremist/512562.html.

russia's supreme court declares jehovah's witnesses website extremist.

the moscow times.
berrygerry

In 2004, a Moscow court banned a local Jehovah's Witnesses group, accusing it of recruiting children, prompting believers to abandon their families, inciting suicide and preventing believers from accepting medical treatment, RAPSI reported.

Do JW's recruit children? (David Splane answers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh8FNlAIrh8 )

Do believers abandon their families? (Ask me, ask Cedars, ask BigMac, ask BetterGuyNow http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/288990/1/16-year-old-JW-daughter-doesnt-want-to-visit-I-have-visitation-rights , ask almost everyone on this forum )

Do JW's incite suicide? (Ask me, ask many posters here, visit https://www.facebook.com/AAWA.Official.Page/posts/320528784770476 )

Do JW's prevent medical treatment? Come on.

Why defend the indefensible?
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Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation
by ToesUp in
1. jw
2. friends
a close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.

visit.

this occurred 3 months ago.
berrygerry

Notice given.

There's a new boss in town.

Are you paying protection?
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2012 WT financial statements in Britain
by EndofMysteries in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
http://theworldnewsmedia.org/file/view/2012-wtbtsb-financial-report.pdf.

it seems it is possible to get some financial statements from some countries.. it's interesting seeing how they must report in what way they are a charity.

many spin doctoring and word games to make it appear they are doing charitable things.. also interesting was how the trustees were consenting to reducing the reserves and sending them to another country, probably wt usa it looks like.
berrygerry

Grants

Voluntary Income

Grants

12,139,311 Pounds

What is this?

And

26,100,834 Pounds Making donations to further religious education oveseas ???
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8 Year Old Getting Baptized!
by Atlantis in
1. watchtower
2. bible
eight year old getting baptized!

(from a jw site.

this 8 year old sister was the youngest of the 31 who were baptized at a regional convention in bogo city, cebu, philippines on the weekend.
berrygerry

Old enough to be abused sexually,

old enough to be abused spiritually.
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The BS Two Witness Rule - John 8
by berrygerry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
many posts have been made regarding the total bs 2 witness rule in order to protect molesters.. did not jesus dispense with this bs rule in john 8:17,18?.

i.e., the father witnesses all, therefore, only one human witness is required?.

.
berrygerry

Many posts have been made regarding the total BS 2 witness rule in order to protect molesters.

Did not Jesus dispense with this BS rule in John 8:17,18?

I.e., the Father witnesses all, therefore, only one human witness is required?
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Psycopaths?
by stuckinarut2 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have been thinking that jws display an organizationally officially promoted form of thinking that makes them psycopaths!.

what i mean is, any person who enjoyed reading and leaning about past gruesome deaths, or who justified such things as being normal or acceptable would be deemed to be dangerous to society...a psychopath.

(by this i am refferring to the content of the bible of course).
berrygerry

Sociopaths cannot be cured.

jws are brainwashed into being nonviolently cruel under specific circumstances because god will kill them if they don't. Their bad behavior started and keeps happening because of something external to them.

jws can be cured.

They seem to be closer to sociopaths.

My feeling is that they are not originally psychopaths, but after years of indoctrination, they become close to that.

Psychopaths and sociopaths seem to be used interchangably, but I would say, that by definition, a psychosis is developed by long-term JW's.

The sociopathy is part of the religion, i.e., the world is controlled by Satan and is conceptually evil; hence all the non-JW's are evil and infectious; to be avoided at all costs.

(Rebel8 - love your posts - but I cannot agree that JW's can be cured. [That was also the fantasy of The Governor and Hershel in Walking Dead])
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My own daughter has much suffered; she will get justice in due time.
by TheFadingAlbatros in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
just learned today direct from my beloved daughter that she has been abused between 5 and 12 years old by 2 brothers (her own cousins) and 1 family "friend".

she has attempted suicide a few days ago.

luckily she is living and she is not physically injured.
berrygerry

There is no pain greater than the pain suffered by our children.

I am so sorry for the pain of your daughter and you.
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Window-washer is the cover of Feb 2015 WT, "How to enjoy your work!" Hahaha!!
by EndofMysteries in
1. watchtower
2. bible
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after all the jokes and satire on this website about jw's only being able to amount to window washers and house cleaners, the cover page of "how to enjoy your work" showing a window washer and cleaner in the back ground.

i almost wonder if some awakened, still-in, from this site is part of the writing department or illustrations and put that in there as an inside joke for us?.
berrygerry

What would make it even funnier is it's probably one of the GB's suites. Where else would they take that photo? So not only is this spiritual food for the R@F but also for those in Bethel to have a big smile on their face while moving in nice furniture, washing windows, doing gardening for the GB.

The Judge would be proud!

With his entourage of "full-time servants" at Beth Sarim.

I have a "cough, cough" health condition, and need to winter in Cali.
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Randy Bchman
by berrygerry in
1. jw
2. friends
as a kid, my fave band was bto (bachman turner overdrive).

randy bachman (a somewhat devout mormon) was the driving force.

randy had separated from the guess who (american woman, these eyes, no sugar tonight).
berrygerry

Pure testosterone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YukhsMPHvvo