Posts by berrygerry

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To DA or not to DA, that is the question?

by dubstepped in

let me preface this by saying that i don't expect anyone here to make my decision for me.

i do however note that like the bible says, in the multitude of counselors there is wisdom, and this is a huge decision, so i wanted to put it out there for discussion.

i really appreciate your words of wisdom, as this affects not just me but my wife also, as we find ourselves in the same boat.

berrygerry

I agree 100% with The Searcher, Scully, and Giordano.

Each well said.

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New arrangement ...fines in stead of disfellowshipment.

by fulano in

that's wat i heard the other day.

now you pay fines for your sins.. adultery is a 450 euro's ( for a firsttimer).

smoking is a 300 -500 euro's sin ( depents on what the blow was).

Those Waking Up Seem to Discover Similar Things - Proverbs 27:11 and the Taunter

by berrygerry in

was thinking about proverbs 27:11 today, and looked it up on biblehub, including the lexicon.. sure enough, the application of this verse, as well as how nwt translates it, makes for thinking, and others who awaken end up thinking similarly.. this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/120883/that-may-make-reply-him-that-taunting-me covers well the misapplication of this verse to jehovah vs satan.. as well, reading other translations - many render this verse not as "him" but "anyone.".

makes it even harder for the wt to abuse this scripture over and over..

berrygerry

Was thinking about Proverbs 27:11 today, and looked it up on BibleHub, including the lexicon.

Sure enough, the application of this verse, as well as how NWT translates it, makes for thinking, and others who awaken end up thinking similarly.

This thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/120883/that-may-make-reply-him-that-taunting-me covers well the misapplication of this verse to Jehovah vs Satan.

As well, reading other translations - many render this verse not as "him" but "anyone."

Makes it even harder for the WT to abuse this scripture over and over.

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Seeking First

by berrygerry in

in response to a post on reddit, i would like to make this long withheld post.on more than one occasion, i have experienced what seemed like miracles.due to whatever circumstances, in retrospect, largely caused by borg directive, our family became perpetually "in need.

"my efforts, as the "head," to do the right borg thing, service, meeting attendance, family worship, never seemed to provide the relief promised by wts.mentally, i have always wrestled with the contradiction of job and of matt.

6:33.satan challenged that if a jw were tested with material, etc.

berrygerry

In response to a post on reddit, I would like to make this long withheld post.

On more than one occasion, I have experienced what seemed like miracles.

Due to whatever circumstances, in retrospect, largely caused by Borg directive, our family became perpetually "in need."

My efforts, as the "head," to do the right Borg thing, service, meeting attendance, family worship, never seemed to provide the relief promised by WTS.

Mentally, I have ALWAYS wrestled with the contradiction of Job and of Matt. 6:33.

Satan challenged that if a JW were tested with material, etc. distress, then that JW would cave.

Jesus, however, said that a faithful JW would always have his needs cared for.

It cannot be both.

I prayed like Gideon. Gideon prayed for a specific answer - dry fleece or not dry.

I often prayed for some kind of direction, please, like Gideon - often, and fervently.

Never an answer.

I tried as hard as a human could try. No answer.

Our family went through horrific stresses (electric cut off [twice], natural gas cut off, foreclosure [twice] ).

And yet, at least twice, we received what I consider miraculous events.

Once, a payment (over 10k), TO THE DAY, when I needed it.

Another, a phone call that led to a payment of over 10k, exiting the parking lot of the Sunday DC, of which I was hungover and forced myself to attend the Sunday session.

WTF?

How does a person rationalize this stuff?

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Writing Committee Doesn't Understand Past, Present, & Future Tenses

by The Searcher in

the verses say one thing, the org says it means something entirely different.. (matthew 24:34) "truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.

w14 1/15 p. 31 par.

15 - "we understand that in mentioning "this generation," jesus was referring to two groups of anointed christians.

berrygerry

“But where the Bible is silent, we must be silent,” said Brother Splane.

Except when we decide to make up BorgSpeak.

http://www.jw.Borg/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/events/annual-meeting-report-2014/

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Just an introduction

by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.

allow myself to introduce myself.

lol.

berrygerry

Congrats on learning TTATT, and hopefully, reconciling with your wife.

If you continue to be reasonable and loving and show a genuine interest in your wife and kids and their welfare, without demanding she chuck everything she believes in right way, you may "win her over without a word."

Couldn't say it better.

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The Kids Go To Work - Eve's Creation Tidbit

by berrygerry in

mr. magnani reports his conversation with pres.

fred franz, and queries him about eve being created in the same year as adam.. he refers franz to the aid book, (topic: eve - p. 538) which states that: .

at the age of 130 another son was born to her.

berrygerry

Mr. Magnani reports his conversation with Pres. Fred Franz, and queries him about Eve being created in the same year as Adam.

He refers Franz to the Aid book, (Topic: Eve - p. 538) which states that:

At the age of 130 another son was born to her. Eve called his name Seth ...

The Insight book changes this to Adam as being 130.

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Does it say anything in the bible about being a “spiritual head” or the head being responsible for everyone’s “spiritual growth”?

by My Name is of No Consequence in

my wife is really getting on my case about not being spiritual and leading the family spiritually.

at this point, i really dont go to meetings anymore nor do i have the desire to go.

i guess its not enough that i work 50 hours a week and pay the majority of the household bills with no complaints.

berrygerry

Do you have kids, and if so, about what age(s)?

The Borg pushes a fantasy family life that is simply unattainable.

Any anxiety will be shifted from your wife onto you.

I would start with asking her to read and meditate on 1 Timothy 5:8

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Someone in the Watchtower writing department has a promising career in comedy.

by Island Man in

"as servants of jehovah, we are not among those who are misled.

we know that the devil is real, for it was satan who spoke to eve through a serpent.

" - watchtower, may 15, 2015, page 15, #3.. someone should do a meme depicting a nutter/paranoid/delusional character saying this.

berrygerry

Bad happens because Satan exists.

We know that Satan exists because bad happens.

It's not complicated, and only Satan would want us to think differently - so think properly.

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Huge story unfolding at Warwick

by Crazyguy in

its been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.

well this is huge on so many levels.

one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?

berrygerry

. I wouldn't expect any other multi-million dollar global corporate to act any differently.

The difference is that WT has a free lawyer pool at their beck and call.

Makes a huge difference in your litigation (and response) strategy.