Posts by goingthruthemotions

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If your not baptized in the name of the father, son and holy spirit. was your baptism official

by goingthruthemotions in

matt 28:19 "go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit,.

i don't ever remember hearing at my baptism nor any other baptism of a jw.

the person giving the baptism talk or person doing the dunking saying that i/we are baptized in the name of the father, son and holy spirit.. so i have come to the conclusion that my/our baptism's are not official.

goingthruthemotions

So here at:

Matt 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

I don't ever remember hearing at my baptism nor any other baptism of a JW. the person giving the baptism talk or person doing the dunking saying that I/we are baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

So I have come to the conclusion that my/our Baptism's are not official. Any thought?

So if this is the case no one can be DF'ed or DA'ed... sound like a large lawsuit!!!!

GTTM

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My apologies to everyone.

by DATA-DOG in

jw
friends

i just wanted to openly apologize to anyone that i have ever offended on this website.

i have been thinking about this lately.

we all seem to go through the same various stages of learning ttatt, anger, sorrow, frustration, bible champion, agnostic, atheist, ect.

goingthruthemotions

D.D. i have only read a couple of your response.....very funny. that's what life is about. I will tell you what i told a JW onetime which they didn't like to hear. I didn't become a witness nor serve JESUS or JEHOVAH (which I do believe whole heartedly...and believe Jesus is my savior...but the BORG has it all wrong) that I don't live my life to have Friends! if someone likes me...then it for who i am! we were brought into this world alone and leave alone. so while your hear make yourself your best friend and love yourself!

GTTM

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Had an argument with my wife about tinkerbell :(

by BU2B in

one of my co workers mother made my 4 year old a blanket with the disney character tinkerbell on it.

as soon as i got it i knew trouble lay ahead.

i wanted to reason with her before my daughter saw it so as not to cause a disruption, but it didn't work out that way.

goingthruthemotions

hello BU2B, sorry to hear about your turmoil...not sure how much you love your wife and such. but if it's worth saving your marriage and family. Be patient and keep taking it slow. keep showing her in the bible how what she has learned is not the truth. Focus on the new testament, bring Jesus into your lives. Remember Jesus said..i am the way the truth and the light. He did not mention anything about the borg.

Yesterday, i was telling my wife happy mothers day. at first she gave me this look. then we discussed it and i reasoned with her that there is no where in the bible the forbids it. i also tell my kids happy birthday.

Remember the Borg took there time to brainwash them...it will take you time to undo it. but take it slow...don't force it. miss meeting and field service, show her the world will not end. and by all means make it always sound like it was her idea.

you can take a horse to water, but cant make it drink. but, if it's there idea..they will. make her feel empowered.

GTTM

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How did you tell your spouse you want out of the JW religion?

by leaving_quietly in

what did you imagine would happen?

did they react the way you expected?

how did you bring it up?.

goingthruthemotions

I agree with Captain Obvious, take it slow. My wife also doesn't comment, were always late to meetings and miss often. she truely doesn't understand what the there doctrine is based on. But, feels guilty if we don't go. guess thats part of the cult control. I go just for her, because she is all that matters to me in this world. when there it is amusing to see the person on the stage regurgitating stuff they may not believe. but have to do it because of the perverbial gun to there head. I often sit and wonder if the elders/MS actually believe the crap they are spewing, because they sure as hell can't back it up.

I stepped down from MS because I could not stand myself spewing crap I didn't agree with or do. Like no higher education, are you kidding me....I have a degree and I will damned if my kids don't get one. They are going to be educated and be productive members of society. I consider myself faded but going thru the motions because I love my wife more than this DAMN regligion. Hopefully she will open her eyes one day!!!

The biggest joke right now is the new light shit.

GTTM

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A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

by TTATTelder in

the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

goingthruthemotions

I also agree, it was very confusing...slight of hand. didn't get angry though, i don't donate and plan not to anymore. i feel they get enough money for something that is free! as far as the halls mortgage debt being forgiven. really? it not like it's going to pay off a real mortgage anyways...it's just something to say to make the sheep feel warm and fuzzy.

it's all slight of hand

New light my A$$

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JW.ORG ABOUT TO WIN THE LOTTERY!

by The Searcher in

after the reading out of the letter about the "new donation arrangement" this week, there is going to be a flood of money pouring into the org's coffers!.

not only from the bank accounts of the sheep, but soon after from the bulk of money in kingdom hall accounts worldwide!.

question: has anyone calculated how much cash could be grabbed from the 113,823 congregations on earth?.

goingthruthemotions

I quit contributing once I became the accounts servent. I saw how much money was being brougt in to our hall and thought...hmmm if all the halls around the world are contributing this amount give or take a couple of hundred dollars, I did some simple math and estimated the BORG gets about $300,000,000 million a year. now imagine getting more due to strong arming people to tithe say around $600,000,000 guranteed due to guilt techniques and brain washing practices and wow you have a new vatican. All they need is a city they could make into a country and bada bing babylon the great has arisen....makes the Catholics look good. where in the hell does all the money go?

they don't help the poor, the don't help the infirmed, nor the homeless, nor people who have blindly given there whole life to them, and for what. something that is already guranteed in the bible through Jesus that is FREE!

And if your late paying the BORG...man, they will let you know. Just like a loan shark or the mafia. Pay up sucker!!!! is what comes to mind. So, no I will not be signing sh*t. those greedy bastards could stick there money where it belongs. up there arse!!!!!

New light my A$$.

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How to become an MS in no time

by Batman89 in

the method i used lol.

1) be a good servant and make sure your wt and pub are always underlined every meeting(great for appearances).

2) comment every meeting(a "sure way" to know someones "spiritually qualified").

goingthruthemotions

Ment to say:

"talking with two faced people I DIDN'T nor do i like right off the bat and still playing up the role."

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How to become an MS in no time

by Batman89 in

the method i used lol.

1) be a good servant and make sure your wt and pub are always underlined every meeting(great for appearances).

2) comment every meeting(a "sure way" to know someones "spiritually qualified").

goingthruthemotions

Batman89 states how to be a MS quickly:

1) Be a good servant and make sure your WT and pub are always underlined every meeting(great for appearances)

2) Comment every meeting(a "sure way" to know someones "spiritually qualified")

3) Average between 12-15 hours in Field Service(another "sure way")

4) Handle all your assignments aka company functions(carrying mics,stage, WT, talks, etc)

5) Be nice to the elders(kiss ass), let them know your always available for any extra company functions(this shows a "willing spirit")

6) Keep double life secret

becoming a MS was the worst mistake I ever made....talking with two faced people I did like right off the bat and still playing up the role. This BORG makes me sick to my stomach.

I do agree, there is not spirituality nor holy spirt at the KH or with the GB.

New light my A$$!

Sorry to vent

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My Experience and how I finally let myself see the truth

by OneEyedJoe in

first off - for those lurkers who feel guilty just for being on this site and reading this (even if you don't read any further, as it is your right to choose that course) i want you to know that you're not alone in what you're going through or in what you are feeling.

if you read on, i hope my experience may be of some small help to you.. this may be long, but i'll try to organize it in a way that doesn't make it painful to read.

to start, i feel it is most beneficial if i'm upfront and honest with my goals from posting this, which are (in order of the degree to which they motivated me):.

goingthruthemotions

I ment to say I Have not heard any real credit given to Jesus! I think Jesus is so important in our worship....because he is loving and forgiving!

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My Experience and how I finally let myself see the truth

by OneEyedJoe in

first off - for those lurkers who feel guilty just for being on this site and reading this (even if you don't read any further, as it is your right to choose that course) i want you to know that you're not alone in what you're going through or in what you are feeling.

if you read on, i hope my experience may be of some small help to you.. this may be long, but i'll try to organize it in a way that doesn't make it painful to read.

to start, i feel it is most beneficial if i'm upfront and honest with my goals from posting this, which are (in order of the degree to which they motivated me):.

goingthruthemotions

Great Post Joe, without going into to much detail right now. I have not been in the BORG very long and saw the lies early on, they just built up and built up.

I studied and did well early on the first few years. But, once I was made a MS...OMG it was an eye opener! This religion is not a religion at all...but a business. I Have heard any real credit given to Jesus! what a shame The generation crap was the final straw, what a crock of sh*t.

But, my wife is still blinded ( right now i can"t go into reasons she is so blinded). Our older son who is a teen and who was pretty much brought up in the BORG thinks it a croc and wants nothing to do with it..(smart Kid) younger son has seen the two faced people in the hall and will eventually see the real side. I don't and have never encouraged them to have any friends from the hall nor associate with people who are so lost in thinking that they might feed them the B.S thinking they have.

But, I am taking it slow with my wife. I have started a bible study with them as a family. Just the bible!!!!! no WT propoganda!!!

So for now i am just going through the motion, it's only a matter of time before the WTBS spouts off more stupid illogical new light changes.

Joe, be patient and never at no time show your cards until it is time.