Mana11 call steve hassan and make an appt with him. he will help you! you are not alone...we are all at various stages in this stupid game the witness cult gives.
it sucks a great deal...
GTTM
please share your experiences..
Mana11 call steve hassan and make an appt with him. he will help you! you are not alone...we are all at various stages in this stupid game the witness cult gives.
it sucks a great deal...
GTTM
so, i was reading combating cult mind control....and i was just thinking: since i've been doing research and learning about the false doctrines of the wtbs and others who are still asleep.
the more i accept that all is not right, the more i see the depression that many in the org.
are going through, the more i see the "human" side of things, the more i compare the average uber dub to the average mainstream christian.....the more i recognize how this cannot be jah's organazation.
congrats on learning TTATT.....you did not mention if you are married or have children. if so, you will have rough waters ahead. before trying to teach the zombies. i recommend listening to this segment on youtube. it is cultfreeradio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBkS1qCeXIo&list=PL1C92492B60E711FC&index=13
listen to all sixteen. it is valuable information and it will set your journey in the right direction. i too still believe in Jehovah and Jesus...but detest the BORG!!!!.
Take it slow, listen to the link.
You could PM anytime you want.
Shalom.
GTTM
this was inspired by terry's thread.... it is something that raises many questions about the jw belief system.. .
for one thing - the bible certainly explains all the details of the christ birth.
it certainly does not tell people to avoid celebrating it with feasts, customs, etc.
It's not a sin nor is it wrong. look up the meaning behind pinatas and then read the article below:
Piñatas I read with interest the article “The Piñata—An Ancient Tradition.” (September 22, 2003) It left me with some questions. The ties to false religion are well-documented. But the article seemed to take the position that as long as it doesn’t bother someone’s conscience, it is OK. What about birthdays and holidays such as Christmas?
JW's are two-faced bastards.
I wish I had never gotten involved in this cult/religion.
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it is killing me now that i am awake, having kids in school and having to be jws.
birthdays, christmas, thanksgiving, having to go home or be left out because their teachers know they are witnesses and/or have kids from the school in their class or grade.
it's a small town so the other jws in the hall know what's going on since their kids are in the same school.
WOW, i wish my wife was like your husband. You are in a good situation. If possible...........move to another location and start your lives over again.
GTTTM
so recently, several over-righteous ones in the cong were discussing "how amazing it felt when they got baptised".
statements like "how awesome did it feel as you got raised back out of the water?!".
or the classic "i felt so close to jehovah as i came out of the pool"!.
wet and disappointed......worst mistake of mylife.
thought i was going to get baptized in the name of the father, son and holy spirit
Good thing i dont consider it a real baptism!!!!!!!!!!!!
GTTM
i work about a block from the local kh and i notice there was no jw.org sign on it.
i said to my wife are they not following the cults rules on this.
will just yesterday as i was driving home from work there it was on the corner of the kh sign jw.org it was about 1 foot x 1 foot in size.
like one the way out,,,i turn my head the other way. i get a disgusted feeling inside me, and think of the worst mistake i ever made in my life. shite, there it goes again...that feeling. Got to stop thinking about it.
this cult will destroy my marriage and family. It sucks, knowing a train is coming down the tracks and no way to get off.
Damn it all to hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone please help me!!!!!!!!!!! grant me one wish is all i ask.......please, please , please, please. I wish i never did join this cult!!! is all i wish.
GTTM
i was baptized at the 1976 "sacret secret" dc at inglewood ca there must have been 50,000 people there..
The wrong one....i should have never got baptized...It was/is the biggest mistake of my life. I feel it will eventually kill my marriage.
why? because my wife is so brain washed!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is a sad situation, knowing the enevitable will happen. just trying to enjoy my marriage now.
she will never come around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it sucks.
GTTM
wanted to say hello to you all.
i am new to the forum and just wanted to introduce myself.
i was raised a witness, never baptized (yay) and am married to a lovely baptized witness of jehovah.. i had been trying to get back into it due to both our families being j dbs but just never could get it into my heart.
Welcome to the board....it is a tough road. first question you need to ask yourself is: how much of a real JW is your wife? Having a kid could tilt it in either direction.
Good luck and make your stand now....later will be too late
remember....IT'S A CULT
GTTM
i've tried taking the slow, patient approach with my wife.
i believe i first posted here about 13 months ago about my wife.. we've always had good communication and could talk endlessly about philosophy, neuroscience, sociology and then when i learned the ttatt, i clammed up a bit about spiritual things.
i'd always been fairly liberal, suggesting other alternative ideas, but then i told my wife about the un/ngo scandal (i ran across the guardian story doing a talk as an ms, lol!
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revelation 1:1 a revelation by jesus christ which god gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.
and he sent forth his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave john,.
jude 1 jude, a slave of jeus christ .
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