Literally every statement about the 144k is taken to be figurative, except the number itsel . Not only that, but essentially ever other number in revelation is taken to be figurative. I'm with you - how did I ever believe any of it? Oh, right, I was a child and had intrinsic trust in my parents...
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144,000
by freein2004 inokay so the number is literal but them coming out of israel is not?
huh?
what am i missing?
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memorial campaing experience
by antes8080 inso a friend from work had a get togather to watch ncaa basketball this pass weekend and i went on saturday morning as we wer watching the game some one rings the doorbell and my friend gos to the door he is there maybe a minute or so, he walks back into the room and screams outloud !!!
"yes i got invited" and starts laughing as other see what he was talking about .
someone sais " i hate those door knockers".
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OneEyedJoe
There's a place to mark "tracts" on the time slip? Show's how long it's been since I turned in an actual slip instead of texting some BS hours.
I think so (I haven't filled out a timeslip in ages either) but I remember around last memorial season they read a letter telling us to report tracts as brochures until they could get a new time slip form created. I'm sure they've got the new ones out by now.
They probably realized if they're going to spend 3-4 months a year on "special campaigns" like this crap, they need to make the stat-oriented JWs feel like they're accomplishing something.
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memorial campaing experience
by antes8080 inso a friend from work had a get togather to watch ncaa basketball this pass weekend and i went on saturday morning as we wer watching the game some one rings the doorbell and my friend gos to the door he is there maybe a minute or so, he walks back into the room and screams outloud !!!
"yes i got invited" and starts laughing as other see what he was talking about .
someone sais " i hate those door knockers".
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OneEyedJoe
Memorial invitations aren't marked as placements, but I get what you're saying.
They're now counting them as "tracts" placed, so people can feel like they're accomplishing something.
So what you're saying is, the leaflet didn't go to a prominent place on the dining room table for all in the family to look over and consider? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!
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"Millions Will Attend -Will You?" Mea Culpa!
by Joe Grundy indubs are working the housing estate where i live.
i was outside my house, applying some tlc to my old jag (worshiping worldly things?)..
one old guy, half a dozen middle-aged and upwards ladies.
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OneEyedJoe
Has anyone reviewed the data to see whether there has been any sort of measurable % increase in Memorial attendance since this concerted invitation business (including "pioneer-lite") started several years back?
Memorial attendance only just surpassed the previous peak in 2011 last year, so if it's doing anything it's only disguising the decline.
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How is Joe Publisher reacting to all the TV coverage on the abuse cases?
by 4thgen inplease pardon if this a repeated topic.
i have had virtually no contact with any witnesses beside my mother for the past few years.
she watches tv constantly and claims she has never seen anything on the watchtower abuse cases.
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Wife fully awake.
by cappytan ini learned this past week that my wife is now awake.
i just shared the pbs newshour segment with her with no comment other than something along the lines of, "jw story on pbs.".
she is furious at the arrogance of these men.. thats what happens when you get a momma angry!.
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OneEyedJoe
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For some reason I've had that happen to be several times over the past few months, but it's always Spanish for me. Guess someone should've sprung for a little satanic higher education. Or maybe it's based on the most popular language choice in the area - I don't there's any growth in the English-speaking sector of Scotland. Do you have a large Arabic community? All the (barely worth mentioning) growth here is in foreign-language groups, the biggest being Spanish. -
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How many of you actually "contributed"?
by Garrett inguys,.
don't tell the elders, buuuuut, i sorta kinda maybe never contributed money....ever..... i always thought - hey, i give a lot of my time and energy to the org, so that's how i contribute.
i was also pretty stinkin poor for most of my life and didn't really have the money to give.. anyone else like me?.
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OneEyedJoe
I used to only contribute at conventions/assemblies (but I definitely contributed WAAAAY too much there) and maybe like once a year I'd drop a $20 in the box at the hall. The congregation I was in was always well off and constantly giving money to the branch so I didn't feel like they needed it. I'm ashamed to say I was sucked in by the perpetual deficit at the assemblies though.
About 4-5 years ago, though, they simultaneously did a huge (unnecessary) reno of the assembly hall and rolled out the credit card machines. Either one of those individually would've been enough to make me stop contributing. Never gave a dime since. I figured if they're just blowing the money on useless crap, I might as well blow it on useless crap for me!
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1st time in 30 years no one Baptized at our Assembly
by James Jack inat our assembly in alabama, no one got baptized, even though we added 3 congregations to our side in the circuit.
just looked at my wife and said wow.. yet ironically, the regular pioneer ranks have increased 45% in the last 5 years!.
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OneEyedJoe
They must be nearing the completion of the preaching work if they've contacted nearly all the right-hearted ones! Armageddon is closer now than ever before! -
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POLL: Will You Be Attending The Memorial & If You Are---Why?
by minimus ini was just invited.
i thanked my old elder friend and he left.
(i'm not going).
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OneEyedJoe
Jesus wont be there, why should I?
You'll both be invisibly present!