Personally, I wish I could somehow do the family worship with my wife - it might well help me to wake her up. We never did it before, though, so it would seem odd if I started at the time when all signs point to me not giving a crap about being "spiritual"
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Why a doubter/fader CANNOT participate in Family Worship/ How to get out it," WT Style."
by DATA-DOG infamily worship night is a boring, depressing, stifling, watchtarded indoctrination/brainwashing session.
it never ends.
like all things wt, there is no end in sight.
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Who is on Top of the Witness Money Chain?
by runForever inwho is all this money benefiting?
when you have hundreds of millions or billions of dollars there will be someone trying to tap into that.
is it the governing body?
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OneEyedJoe
TTATT Elder made a great post less than a week ago on this very topic:
In short, anyone who's part of the hierarchy benefits in some way from keeping the scam going, with the GB members living a quite cushy life, and getting to see the world all on the dime of the R/F.
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Conti Appeal Preview - Oral Argument Jan 14
by Chaserious inwith hopefully a good deal of interest here in the conti appeal tomorrow (or later today, depending on where you are), i thought that on my ride home from work tonight i'd preview what to expect and what i think the key issues are for any who are interested.
i have had a busy few weeks and haven't had time to read everything, but i had some time to look at the appeal briefs during my work commute the past couple days.
it'll be interesting to see what develops out of the network news coverage of this case.
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OneEyedJoe
elders assigning a child to work with a known pedophile in field service, is probably unlikely to exist in other cases.
I thought that, but apparently that's exactly what happened in the other case that the WTS just lost to Zalkin. They assigned the pedophile to study (so even worse than going in FS) with the victim since his father wasn't in the cult.
The malfeasance issue seems to be the strongest point the WT has - who remembers who assigned who to work with who in field service last week, let alone 15 years ago?
I'd guess the kid that got raped as a result might remember. The point is sound though, there's not likely to be any clear testimony on this topic and even if there was it would be easy to dismiss due to the time that's passed. I can't think how there'd ever be any hard evidence of such an assignment, either.
Hopefully a precedent will be set and the sharks will begin to circle.
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The emptiness of science may explain the rise of fundamentalism...
by cognisonance inneurophilosopher, thomas metzinger says in his book:.
the ego tunnel: thescience of the mind and the myth of the self.
the ego evolved as an instrument in social cognition, and one of its greatest functional advantages was that it allowed us to read the minds of other animals or conspecifics and then to deceive them.
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OneEyedJoe
The appeal to consequences (if we evolved/there's no god, then my life has no meaning) seems to be pretty effective at keeping people stuck in silly belief systems, or driving them further in when they feel threatened.
The other day I was bored at the KH and skimmed through the KM. There was a sample presentation for one of the brochures on how life began or whatever and the presentation essentially followed this formula. Ask what the HH believes, read a quote about how empty life is for evolutionists and then explain to them that if they'll believe in fairy tales in the face of all evidence they can be happier.
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Jehovah's Witness Elders Question A Brother For Not Turning In Field Service Time
by Watchtower-Free infound this on youtube.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3zlxley6u.
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OneEyedJoe
Very good find. This JW has been struggling a lot during his time in the WT and never really felt comfortable in FS. He has known something was up for a while but probably could not put his finger on it.
I hope he is happier now and out of WT.
If I remember correctly from the previous thread (tried in vain to find it) he was fully awake to TTATT (thus why he'd think to record this conversation) and working on his exit.
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2015 Regional Convention Theme - unofficial-
by WatchTower87 innews about 2015 regional convention theme?.
list of my preview:.
- the end is at hand.
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Lovingly give to Jehovah - 2 Kings 12:4
We may have a winner. I can totally see them filling 3 days on that topic.
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How to reply to- "just wait on Jehovah".
by runForever inall you have to say is "who says jehovah is not using me right now?
" something to that effect.. if they say you are just a low-life nobody just point out amos nipper of figs.
and if they say "do you think you're a prophet?
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OneEyedJoe
Are you serious? Does the fact that a Catholic is willing to overlook the faults in his own religion make it right for a Jehovah's Witness to ignore the faults in his own religion?
My point was that this effectively shows their hypocrisy - an unwillingness to act on evidence that they don't have the truth, but they won't recognize the validity of the same excuse used by someone of another faith.
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Called on a DF'd person today.
by kairos inwow, what a surprise that was!.
i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.
totally caught me off guard.
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I'm currently being shunned by one of my best jw friends, because he's DF'd. It's so sad to see the power weilded by this cult and the mental prison it puts people in. -
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The Evolution of the Human Eye
by cofty inenjoy this informative 5 minute video that explains very simply how the human eye has evolved over millions of years.
notice how each of the steps on the path to our complex eyes can be found among extant living creatures.. it may whet your appetite to research lots more details that have been discovered in recent years.. please remember that natural selection is not about random chance.. .... .
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OneEyedJoe
But even Darwin admitted that it was absurd in the highest degree to think that the eye could've evolved through natural processes!
Thanks for sharing!
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Jehovah's Witness Elders Question A Brother For Not Turning In Field Service Time
by Watchtower-Free infound this on youtube.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3zlxley6u.
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Thanks.
That scripture actually always bothered me when it came to a lot of things that JWs did. The other one that always bothered me regarding time reports was the bit where David took a census of his army and god killed a bunch of people as a result (that one also bothered me since David had done the crime, but it was other people that god punished, but that's neither here nor there).
This was a good video for showing just how much control the cult will try to exert, and how little room there is for individual conscience. The proper reaction from the elders would've been to say something like "well, ok if it bothers your conscience then you certainly shouldn't do it." and let that be that.