Posts by OneEyedJoe

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I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?

by EdenOne in

it just dawned on me.

the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.

OneEyedJoe

I went from agnostic to atheist when I realized that the only way to get to a god that could possibly exist and fit the observable evidence would have to be so watered down that there would be no reason to call such an entity "god."

God is certainly not necessary to explain anything. Even if some entity exists that kicked off our universe, he did little more to earn the title of god than Jacques Clouseau did to earn the title inspector. What's the point in having a god that deserves neither worship, nor respect?

When you add it all up, an absentee god is equivalent to no god. Since no god seems to be much more likely (not to mention the more useful and intellectually honest theory) what's the point in jumping through hoops just to say that god might exist?

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Thoughts on "Going Clear," the Scientology Documentary

by OnTheWayOut in

jw
friends

i managed to find a copy of "going clear" on the internet.

i won't post a link because most are loaded with pop-ups and you have to be careful about accidental downloads.

mine was no exception, but i managed to keep the computer clean.

OneEyedJoe

I watched it the other day. My wife had actually already watched it and when I talked to her about it she seemed to have made zero connection to her chosen cult. I think she's a lost cause.

The part that hit me the hardest was watching the 4 women going on TV badmouthing their exhusbands. That may well be my future (minus the tv part)

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The 50 Ways to Be Disfellowshipped

by Wild_Thing in

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friends

i was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone?

i know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?

a couple of years ago i traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old jw acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person.

OneEyedJoe

Well as is often said here - anything 3 elders agree on.

Some specifics - sex, alcoholism/drugs, badmouthing the cult or doctrine, being tangentially involved in fraud (happened to a personal friend of mine - he was innocent), porn, blood transfusion, misc bloodguilt, misc crimes (theft assault, etc), joining another church, joining any political group, smoking, voting, any form of military service... I'm sure there's lots more but I'm drawing a blank now.

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Worst Memorial Talk Ever!

by The Searcher in

i honestly have never heard such claptrap being delivered in a memorial talk.. the speaker repeatedly put down the way other religions administered the bread & wine, and claimed that witnesses do it exactly as the bible describes.

oh yeah????.

he forgot to mention - when reading aloud 1 corinthians 11:25 - that after passing the bread, a full meal was to be shared, before the wine was passed around!

OneEyedJoe

Sorta like the cultists say "the most important meeting is the next one" the worst memorial ever is always the next one. So far (about 15 minutes in) it's all standard fare, except they got the most monotone elder to do it this year (oh and I'm about 4 bourbons deep haha).

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Just to see...

by SoJo16 in

i walked by the local double hall this afternoon on my way home from work at about 4:30 pm.

you would never know it's a special night.

no cars in the lot, nothing swept, no flowers or decorations...totally dead.

OneEyedJoe

Makes sense. Memorial can't start till after sundown. What did you expect?

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HBO Scientology Documentary

by tresdecu in

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friends

has anyone else seen the hbo scientology documentary 'going clear' - wow...cults are just mind-blowing you wonder how people can fall for that garbage, then you (those of us former/fading jws) look in the mirror.. i would love for someone to make a major jw documentary like this.

'going clear' is getting a lot of press.

poor tom cruise...he looks like quite the whack job in it too.

OneEyedJoe

Watched going clear this morning. I lost it when they showed the interviewees' exwives badmouthing them on TV.

My wife actually had already watched it - I don't understand how an active jw could be so unaffected by it as she was. When I talked to her about it she talked about how crazy it all was without a hint of irony. Actually her tone was more of relief that she didn't have to deal with the difficulties of living in a cult. I think she's a lost cause.

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JWs as described by Cracked

by Vidiot in

http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-religions-youve-got-all-wrong-because-hollywood/.

the article describes four different religions (rastafari, jws, amish, and scientology); jws are #3.. the jw entry is pretty accurate (and as usual, funny), but surprisingly doesn't mention the two-witness-rule-related legal troubles the wt has been having lately.

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OneEyedJoe

I hate when people act like JWs must all be clamoring for one of the 144k spots in heaven. It's that sort of small misunderstanding that makes an active JW dismiss all the other criticism.

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144,000

by freein2004 in

okay so the number is literal but them coming out of israel is not?

huh?

what am i missing?

OneEyedJoe

Literally every statement about the 144k is taken to be figurative, except the number itsel . Not only that, but essentially ever other number in revelation is taken to be figurative. I'm with you - how did I ever believe any of it? Oh, right, I was a child and had intrinsic trust in my parents...

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memorial campaing experience

by antes8080 in

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friends

so a friend from work had a get togather to watch ncaa basketball this pass weekend and i went on saturday morning as we wer watching the game some one rings the doorbell and my friend gos to the door he is there maybe a minute or so, he walks back into the room and screams outloud !!!

"yes i got invited" and starts laughing as other see what he was talking about .

someone sais " i hate those door knockers".

OneEyedJoe

There's a place to mark "tracts" on the time slip? Show's how long it's been since I turned in an actual slip instead of texting some BS hours.

I think so (I haven't filled out a timeslip in ages either) but I remember around last memorial season they read a letter telling us to report tracts as brochures until they could get a new time slip form created. I'm sure they've got the new ones out by now.

They probably realized if they're going to spend 3-4 months a year on "special campaigns" like this crap, they need to make the stat-oriented JWs feel like they're accomplishing something.

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memorial campaing experience

by antes8080 in

jw
friends

so a friend from work had a get togather to watch ncaa basketball this pass weekend and i went on saturday morning as we wer watching the game some one rings the doorbell and my friend gos to the door he is there maybe a minute or so, he walks back into the room and screams outloud !!!

"yes i got invited" and starts laughing as other see what he was talking about .

someone sais " i hate those door knockers".

OneEyedJoe

Memorial invitations aren't marked as placements, but I get what you're saying.

They're now counting them as "tracts" placed, so people can feel like they're accomplishing something.

So what you're saying is, the leaflet didn't go to a prominent place on the dining room table for all in the family to look over and consider? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!