Posts by Ignoranceisbliss

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Is there any good (im serious) in this religion JW

by dugout in

jw
friends

i know this has been talked about in the past but im new here..

Ignoranceisbliss

Cofty

i don't see any problem in thinking that you can gain a decent moral compass from the Borg. I guess that is only in my case and is probably more of a result of a great mother. Regardless, Me and most of my friends ascribe to be good husbands and fathers. I try not to drink to much. I'm not gonna cheat on my wife. I work hard. I don't steal.

i don't doubt that you can gain these traits outside of the Borg. I also don't doubt that you can be raised jdub and be a horrible person. Regardless I have to think that some of what I am is a result of my history as a witness.

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Is there any good (im serious) in this religion JW

by dugout in

jw
friends

i know this has been talked about in the past but im new here..

Ignoranceisbliss

A watcher

u obviously are an active witness as am I. I no longer believe so I come on here and post and it doesnt bother me. Why doesn't it bother u to go against the Borgs counsel. Im honestly no trying to poke at you. Just curious about your reasoning.

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Is there any good (im serious) in this religion JW

by dugout in

jw
friends

i know this has been talked about in the past but im new here..

Ignoranceisbliss

Yes there is def some good. Nothing is all evil all the time. I find that he friends for my young kids at the hall are great play mates. Also the group of friends that I have there I will never replace once I decide to leave for good. Some may disagree with this but I have great friends there. I know they will choose the Borg over me but they are brain washed. That doesn't mean they aren't good friends in the mean time. It also does give a decent moral compass. I think that I am a pretty decent person now and part of that is as a result of the Borg. I am also good with people which helps me run my business.

But in the end.......

It's still A cult!

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Will the JW.Org Site make a difference ?

by Phizzy in

it will obviously make a difference to how jw's obtain their literatrash, they will have to download and print it all themselves before long.. it will make a small difference to the dtod work, they will now refer even genuine questions and interest etc to the site, not taking the opportunity to "witness" on the initial call at all.

this has been happening already to a degree.. the difference i am mainly interested in is the capture of new suckers in to the borg.. we will be able to see when we get 2014's figures, sometime next year, what the rate of increase was over the last ten years.. phizzy the prophet predicts that the rate of increase over the next ten years will not be significantly up.

probably down, but certainly, i feel, not so different from the last ten.. should i be around in ten years to do so, i will wish to ask jw's:.

Ignoranceisbliss

Our hall has someone. prob soon to become publisher. he requested study thru website. Young,educated,good looking. Exactly the type of person you would think would have nothing to do with the Borg.

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Pioner book 2014

by abner in

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sorry my bad englich i need the new book for pioners , edition 2014 !

in pdf or doc, please!

Ignoranceisbliss

Sorry me anglish bad not soso. Need direction plaise! How to fake bad anglish. Before give me thinks you.

in document or PDF form only please. I am running windows XP and am unable to process alternate variations.

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"You are good people"

by ateograciasadios in

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friends

this story goes back 2 years, when my girlfriend and i traveled to my homecountry in south america to spend the summer visiting my family and friends.

although i was still attending the meetings back then, i had already been inactive for a while.

the developments since that visit have been slow but dramatic, and my perception of the people inside the organization has changed greatly.

Ignoranceisbliss

That's an interesting story. Thanks for sharing

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United Nations churches.

by Ignoranceisbliss in

it must of been around 1992. i remember all the chatter among local wirnesses was about how the united nations was setting up there own churches around the world.

it seems like there was even a newspaper article to back this up.

it was obvious that this is how governments would finally turn on religion.

Ignoranceisbliss

LLFS. It is funny how the same stories get circulated over and over. It's the same old rigmarole .

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United Nations churches.

by Ignoranceisbliss in

it must of been around 1992. i remember all the chatter among local wirnesses was about how the united nations was setting up there own churches around the world.

it seems like there was even a newspaper article to back this up.

it was obvious that this is how governments would finally turn on religion.

Ignoranceisbliss

It must of been around 1992. I remember all the chatter among local wirnesses was about how the United Nations was setting up there own churches around the world. It seems like there was even a newspaper article to back this up. It was obvious that this is how governments would finally turn on religion. This scarred me to death. It was clear that the great tribulation was just around the corner! Im not sure if this was just in my area or all over the U.S. I think that it came from someone's relative who was at bethel.

Something else that that horendously frightened me was when news came that the type of bird described in the bible as eating all the dead bodies after Armageddon was miraculously multiplying in numbers really fast. It was clear that jehovah was behind this to get them ready for there feeding frenzy. That's some scary stuff to a 13 year old with a guilty conscience.

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Watchtower Tells Us "Employers Seek JWs Only" Yet Most JW Employers Avoid Hiring JWs, Why?

by BucketShopBill in

here's a thought: we're told over and over how employers sing the praises of their jw employees, sometimes with a vague quote about how 'if we could only hire jws, we would as they are so honest'.

however, while some jw employers themselves may hire jw employees (usually cheap entry level positions), most don't.

in fact, many jw's in general who have businesses have a rule not to do work with jws, even those in their congregation.

Ignoranceisbliss

I run my own business and prefer not to work for jdubs. jdubs typically are cheap and think they can do things on their own. Once I told,a witness that I wasn't going to work for him anymore (he was a horrible customer). He took it personally but I continued to treat him (on a personal level) as if nothing had happened. Eventually he apologized and asked if I would accept him as a customer again. (He promised to be reformed). i reluctantly accepted. So far so good. Hopefully he learned his lesson.

There is a witness mentality that is hard to explain. It's similar to an entitalment mentality.

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Just wondering

by ducatijoe in

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friends

so i am new to this site.. i have left the organization of my own accord.

and doing very well.. why do those of you who are still active, if you are on this site, still attend?.

it is no differance to me... i am just wondering why.... .

Ignoranceisbliss

I'm one that still attends while fully awake. It is a weird feeling. I went out in service this morning. I try to avoid that as much as possible. Rarely if ever do I do actual door to door work. usually just junk rvs or else the tract work. I despise the ministry. The meetings don't bother me much at all.

I justify it by knowing that this is temporary. I won't grow old in the Borg. My family is the only thing in this world that is important to me. I have to tread carefully as I proceed down this path.

I think that if I believed in a god and felt that the Borg was a false religion I might feel more urgency to get out of it quicker. But I don't.