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  How to get my kids out

  by SaneAgain in

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  i've been disfellowshipped for about 5 years and extremely happy to be out.

  my ex wife is still a regular meeting attender and takes our two young kids with her (8 and 6 years old).

  i recently saw some of the caleb and sophia videos on the jw.org website and was completely appalled, i remember what i was taught as a kid growing up in the organization but this seems so much worse and now that i'm out i can plainly see the mind control.

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  SaneAgain,

  Welcome. Different approaches work for different parents. My two children were considerably older than yours when I left Wally World but this is what worked for me. I did not try to persuade them as I knew their mother and other JWs would paint me as Satan trying to mislead them. I also knew that no decision is more meaningful than one that comes from ones own conclusions. So I was patient. As I was leaving the organization and after I was completely out I always answered any questions they might have but tried not to talk them into anything. It took some time but as they saw my life blossom and improve considerably, education, career, travel, relationships, overall disposition, etc., they began to see the light. There were some tough times and struggles but I am happy to say they are both out and thriving. The decision they made to come out is their own and it is solid. I could not have a more wonderful relationship with both of them. We are all happy to be out!
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  American Sniper - courage or cowardice?

  by Simon in

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  the movie american sniper is breaking box office records and of course there is some irony that a movie about a sniper is released on martin luther king day (who was shot by one).. but of course there is a world of difference between an assassin and a military sniper ... or is there?.

  some are making a big stink about it and claiming that "snipers are cowards".

  it seems unfair to me.

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  I saw the movie a week ago. As movies go I would rate it pretty good. It did keep my interest and evoked some thoughts and emotions. 

  As far as an opinion regarding courage or cowardice,  it seems to me anyone that serves and has to shoot or be shot has to have some measure of courage. There are those that meet the enemy face to face, thank "God" for them. And those behind front lines, thank "God" for them. What I gathered from the movie, reading, and discussions with informed friends, it takes a special set of skills to be a sniper. Not only do you have to have the marksmanship skills, you have to be decisive and have already made up your mind that you will kill a person in certain scenarios regardless of sex or age. It has been reported that Kyle killed more than 160 people. I would rather know how many lives he saved by using his skills.
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  OMG! The world is worse than ever! This system can't last! Violence is increasing! Wait, what's that you say?

  by sir82 in

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  if you read jw literature, the world has been progressively getting "worse and worse" since 1914.. is that really the case?.

  for a more rational analysis, look here:.

  a few highlights:.

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  A Dumbass by any other name would...
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  Couple questions....like if JW's not the right way then what is?

  by world in

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  new member here so don't attack :d here is a couple questions i have been contemplating lately.. .

  if jw isn't the right religion, then which one is?

  or is it basically believe in god, the bible and you'll be fine?.

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  World,

  Welcome. Many have been where you are, including myself. Many JWs like to pose the question, "If not here then where?". Continue to ask questions, educate yourself, likely you will come to the same conclusion that many of us have. That is, once you leave Wally World you don't have to go anywhere. Just live your life and enjoy a non-judgmental world that has endless options.
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  JWs say, "They don't judge"

  by skeeter1 in

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  what is up with jws?

  lately, i've heard this line, "we don't judge .

  but, doesn't everyone judge?

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  IMO, JWs are the most judgmental group in the world. This became clearer after I left. Do I remember correctly, if you were not baptized or children of baptized parents when the big A occurred, you were toast! No, not judgmental at all.
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  Higher Education... Some ideas for those that think it is too late

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  2. friends

  so many witnesses lost the opportunity to pursue higher education in their youths.

  perhaps it took decades for many here to leave and now feel it is too late.

  degree you will also earn multiple certifications from other agencies:.

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  Gaining knowledge, improving brain power, personal accomplishment, new horizons, making new friends and acquaintances, sharing ideas and thoughts, benefitting from other's experience, opening many more doors, when is it ever too late for any of these? Pursuing an education enhances all of these and so much more. I recommend regardless of age, it simply should not be a factor. If all goes well you will continue to age, with or without an education. In my case I could turn 45 without an education or turn 45 with an education. Either way I turned 45. Thankfully I chose to do so with an education, and I have not a single regret, quite the opposite.
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  Greatest College Football Day

  by DisArmed in

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  i don't read too much about sports on the forum.

  one of the great things about being out of wally world is enjoying sports without judgement.

  i love college football and this, to me is the greatest college football day!

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  I don't read too much about sports on the forum. One of the great things about being out of Wally World is enjoying sports without judgement. I love college football and this, to me is the greatest College Football day! Rivalry Saturday, Michigan vs Ohio State, Georgia vs Georgia Tech, Alabama vs Auburn, South Carolina vs Clemson...on and on! Who are you pulling for?
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  How and why?

  by snare&racket in

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  once upon a time, there was a world in flux, undergoing change and diversity at an imperceptible pace.

  only with hindsight was it possible to catalogue the various paths being born that led to a word and humanity so very different one hundred years later than compared to any time in the homo sapiens past.. technology, warfare, the universe, the discovery of atoms... born in stars, all things forced upon the fragile minds of mortals in a short period of time.. these overwhelming changes led to the birth of many things, including comforts and hopes that were far to readily available to grasp ahold of.

  as the founders of these comforts could not themselves grasp the world they found the self in, they sought the worlds they knew, the past, 4000 years in the past......the technicalities and truths were to be ironed out at another time, a time never reached.. some had no choice in the matter, the grasping was done by their parents, their grandparents, their great grandparents.....when the time came for personal analysis, not only had they inherited comfort but great, great fears.

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  Snare,

  Truth every single time. Years of thinking, "this can't be right," led to seeking information. Once I read COC and then logged onto internet sites, (hell, I'd never heard about the Great Pyramid Fiasco until then) the information poured in. Once I let go of living forever, (tough, i really did believe) and not seeing relatives again by way of some great resurrection, I was free and could move forward. For any lurkers out there, information, education and truth are the keys. It's not easy, the longer you've been in, it seems the harder to get out. It can be done as many on this site can attest.
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  It's all coming back...

  by SoJo16 in

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  i joined the board this month and holy cow, are there ever some interesting points of view here.. a bit about my background: my dad was an unbaptised born-in who nevertheless went to vietnam and college where he met my mom.

  mom was lutheran, but dad told her the only religion he was interested in belonging to was the jdubs.

  they married in the early 70s and were both baptized.

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  Welcome, SoJo! Enjoyed your story.
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  If You Don't Believe In God Anymore, Do You Still Say God Bless You or Thank God, etc.?

  by minimus in

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  honestly, do you??

  and if you do, isn't that hypocritical!.

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  To the original post question, yes I do. I think maybe partly because I was so long not allowed to. I say God Bless, God Knows, Jesus Christ!, for God's sake...sort of like I say Good Luck! or why I propose a toast to friends and good times even though I don't believe in luck or the original purpose for toasting. Also I never miss a chance to say, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!