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  How do you think God feels about atheists? Angry? Amused?

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  hey guys, .

  have you ever considered what god thinks about atheists?

  assume for a moment that he/she/it is there: what's the reaction to non-believers?

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  aniron

  God doesn't believe in atheists.
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  How the Religious View Homosexuality

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

  for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

  it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

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  To use that well worn phrase "Some of my friends, work mates etc, are gay." So I know that apart from their sexual orientation, they are no different than anyone else. In my younger days may have gone down that path myself.

  Funnily in the last 2-3 years the ones who have contacted me, probably 6-8 guys, telling me they are gay, have been JW's. Seems thats because I originally helped two others and I have ended up a sort of unofficial counseller.

  Boy! and have they told me some stories of goes on among young JW males.

  Now as regards them being "allowed" to be in a "Christian" religion, running the whole gamut from Catholic to JW's and so forth.

  I have always looked at it this way. If you want to join any other organisation or club etc you agree to abide by their rules.

  If upon wanting to join say a club, and one of the rules is that I can only wear black shoes. But I only ever wear brown shoes. What right have I to demand a change in rules to suit me. I knew what the rules were so why join? A simple illustration I know.

  The Christian faith says that as a Christian you cannot practise being homosexual.

  Then why become a Christian? No one is forcing you to be one.

  If a homosexual finds a "church" that has no problem with them, then go to that church, or even start your own.

  But don't expect others to undermine their faith just so you can fit in.

  Also what "Religious view" are we talking about here? Is it just the "Christian" view?

  Not having read all the posts. Has anyone mentioned Islam? After all it is a religion.

  The Christian faith says "Sorry we can't allow you in our church until you change."

  Islam says "You are an evil thing and we are going to hang, stone, behead etc any of you we find, even if you are not Muslim."

  We have only to look at countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran for such treatment of homosexuals.

  I still find the pictures of them hanging two young boys 16 and 18 in Iran, horrifying.

  Yes I know there are extreme "Christian" groups who would probably like to do the same.

  It also seems to me that is the "non-religious", that is, those that don't attend any church or just say they are "Christian" that seem to shout the most over this issue.

  Personally as a Christian I have no qualms about gays attending my church. Its their conscience they have to deal with not mine.
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  How the Religious View Homosexuality

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

  for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

  it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

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  How the Religious View Homosexuality

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

  for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

  it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

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  How the Religious View Homosexuality

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

  for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

  it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

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  How the Religious View Homosexuality

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

  for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

  it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

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  How the Religious View Homosexuality

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

  for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

  it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

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  aniron
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  How the Religious View Homosexuality

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for people who are still religious, what are your views on gays?.

  for me (an atheist) it goes against my own morality to think of them as sinners or somehow doing wrong, and yet in the bible it teaches that it is wrong.

  it's one of the main reasons i could never go along with the jws.. i'm curious how religious people address this issue.

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  aniron

  Sorry I don't know whathappened there.

  I hit a key and it posted about half a dozen copies.

  Couldn't just delete had to remove them best I could.
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  The Trinity ( arguement to end all arguments I hope )

  by 5go in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i pretty much don't think much of christendom.

  but why do christians insist on holding such an unholdable position with the trinity.. the bible i agree holds proof for both trinity and nontrinity positions.. i still don't get why that christians other than catholics would hold such an untenable position as god came down to earth but didn't, and he prayed ( talked ) to himself a lot.. .

  i remember a comedy sketch were some kids were stumping a nun in catholic school with question on the trinity and the eurachrist..

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  aniron

  The JW's believe that the Trinity is impossible to uphold. That it is incomprehensible to believe.

  Yet they believe in that Jehovah has always existed, had no beginning and will have no end.

  They teach that life comes from life, that each kind comes from its own kind.

  Yet they believe that Jehovah came from nowhere, has always existed.

  Is that any less incomprehensible than believing in a Trinity?
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  A proessor's interesing theory on Jesus's resurrection.

  by badboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  professor frank tipler believes that jesus's body decayed into neutrinos and antineutrinos,which then converted ito atoms to make up the resurrected jesus.

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  aniron

  In three days?