so i've been noticing recently that some khs in the area where i live (socal) are putting up the jw.org little blue dot, but others are not.
i would think this would be a mandatory directive from hq.
does anyone here have any intel on the matter?.
Actually they finally managed to get their hands on it as of May 13, 2015.
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4807:ud3p30.2.1
Watchtower withdrew their petition to cancel JW Player's trademark because the two parties had entered negotiations to settle, and apparently this is the result. Who knows how much they paid out. Look for a little "R" to appear in place of the "TM" on the JW.ORG logo just like it does next to Watchtower and Awake on the inside covers of the magazines.
i am looking for some songs that are in ref to celebrating leaving, seeing the light, realizing what you were told wasnt right, being happy w your life, etc etc.
all those emotions about being controlled and repressed, being told what you can feel or think or how to live, blindly following the "brotherhood ".
The Who - I'm Free
I'm free, I'm free
And freedom tastes of reality
I'm free, I'm free
And I'm waiting for you to follow me
If I told you what it takes to reach the highest high
You'd laugh and say, "Nothing's that simple"
But you've been told many times before
Messiahs pointed to the door
No one had the guts to leave the temple
I'm free, I'm free
And freedom tastes of reality
I'm free, I'm free
And I'm waiting for you to follow me
How can we follow?
How can we follow?
"I'll get her out, she's worth the wait."
I feel the same way towards mine. The organization, like so many others, intercepts people's naturally occurring good will and shamelessly uses it for its own ends. Once freed, my wife would most likely volunteer or do social work or counseling in some place where she can make a real difference. Just one reason to be patient with TTATT.
if you recall, i'm just coming to grips with ttatt and atheism after a few years of doubts.
made a long post around here, a while ago, talking about the very subject.
but, anyways.... so the other day, my wife was telling me how she was just exhausted and "peopled out.
I know what you mean... I'm still in and have known TTATT for years, and am still very active in spite of it. I was given a "bible study" by an elder and try to keep it open and free of dogma but sometimes when I'm talking Cult Mode kicks in like autopilot leaving me wondering afterward "what did I just say? What's wrong with me??"
My wife gets fed up with the insensitive treatment dished out to her by others in the congregation, getting very discouraged at times. She doesn't get that no other group of people feels such license to overstep boundaries. Hell, they all go tell strangers in the territory how to live their lives how much more with the Friends. I'll say something about getting peace through holy spirit, knowing it's probably just within ourselves if we want it.
on the paragraph about meditation in today's study, i gave a comment about "meditating with a view towards mindfulness and awareness of the positive things in our lives.".
afterwards, about 8 people that i rarely talk to in the congregation came up and expressed how much they appreciated that point.. wanted to say, "thank the buddha.
" but didn't have the guts.
despite my user name, am female.
i was not born-in, began studying when i was around 20, am 50 damn years old now and have spent almost the last 30 years in that stupid religion.
but here are some observations, make of them what you will.
What a post, Muddy Waters. Being still in, an MS and knowing TTATT i can only hope my efforts to wake up my wife result in her one day being able to look back and say what you said. Right now I can strongly attest to control she has with the full force of the org. behind her. As soon as I make some progress with her with a little nugget of TTATT, someone in a headship-circumventing way encourages her about US pursuing some Spiritual Goal and it's all undone. Then she's all gung-ho about that new spiritual milestone. And wonders why I am not. Anyway, thank you. Your perspective and the 180 degree shift you've experienced gives me hope.
did you really believe in things as ;- the earth is only 6000 years old- the 144.000- 1914, based upon the destructiono of jerusalem- harmagheddon or the end of the world coming soon???
?i married a jw when i was an interested person and studying with the jw's ( not the way they wanted) but i told my wife before marrying her that " most probably " i would never have been a jw.she accepted me as i was and married me.
after that i had interrupted the study for one year, i started all over again with an elder of my wife's cong.
1914, yes. Because, you know, World War I. Then, when I could grasp it, the "seven times". Wow! So accurate!
Also, the literal interpretation of the flood. Because, you know, flowers under the permafrost and the mammoth with food still in his mouth. Not that these are necessarily WT explanations, I'd have to look it up. This is how it was explained to me when I was very young and I accepted these "facts" without question, until the day many years later when I knew too much to still believe it. Ironically, what changed my mind on it for good was when a very young MS gave a public talk about the flood and kept insisting that "the flood was real". Although he had some interesting "proofs" I hadn't heard before, by the end of it I realized there was no way it could have actually happened. The poor guy would be mortified to know he had had that effect on one of his listeners.
why do you think it is that wts limit accessibility to watchtowers and awakes to only issues since year 2000 on jworg?
a whiff of something slightly orwellian?
not a case of re-writing history but nixing it altogether?
"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
i was sitting at the meeting the other night and for the first time it hit, jw talks or magazines are never uplifting!
i rarely, if ever hear a talk or read a magazines and have it give nothing but praise to jehovahs servants or just praise jehovah and jesus throughout it.
they never just a read through the bible or just a bible story explained or told.
