Posts by opusdei1972

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Jehovah's Witnesses on vaccination (let's remember)

by opusdei1972 in

this a excerpt from the article "the sacredness of human blood (why vaccination is unscriptural)", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 294.. .

the following is an excerpt from the article: "vaccination---why not?

", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 298.. .

opusdei1972

Did Holy Spirit direct the Society to decree vaccinations were unchristian for a period of time, and later say they were acceptable? For followers who are trained to accept everything coming from the Organization as food from Jehovah, this has potentially led to needless loss of Witness lives.

In fact, the President of the Watchtower Society, Joseph Rutherford, taught that no holy spirit was directing the Society:

“After the holy spirit as an advocate or paraclete ceased to function in behalf of the consecrated, then the angels are employed in behalf of those who are being made ready for the kingdom. ‘For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all they ways’ -Ps. 91:11″ (Preservation, 1932 p. 51-52)

“By his spirit, the holy spirit, Jehovah God guides or leads his people up to a certain point of time, and thus he did until the time when ‘the comforter’ was taken away, which would necessarily occur when Jesus, the Head of his organization, came to the temple and gathered unto himself those whom he found faithful when he, as the great Judge, began his judgment, in 1918.” (Preservation, 1932 p. 193-194)

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Jehovah's Witnesses on vaccination (let's remember)

by opusdei1972 in

this a excerpt from the article "the sacredness of human blood (why vaccination is unscriptural)", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 294.. .

the following is an excerpt from the article: "vaccination---why not?

", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 298.. .

opusdei1972

williamhconley: As you pointed out, the Society knew for many years that vaccination was OK, but the Watchtower did not want to admit it publicly.

A famous ex-witness who wrote a book exposing the history of the Watchtower wrote me the following:

I remember well how this was enforced. As a boy, my grandfather was very angry with the Golden Age. He was a medical doctor, and it was as much because of vaccination as anything that he refused to become a Bible Student or Witness. I have a letter to him from a physician in Michigan who told him - in answer to a letter that he had written - to ignore the Witnesses; they were just fanatics.
When I moved to Arizona in 1948, Witnesses regularly put lemon juice on their arms after being vaccinated when coming from or going into Mexico. However, the society began to forget about vaccination - as Macmillan points out - when it affected young men in prisons for refusing military service and when the society began to send missionaries abroad. Undoubtedly, Knorr and other high Watchtower officials were vaccinated. Otherwise they couldn't have traveled to Latin America or Asia. Yet curiously, the society failed to tell the Witness community that vaccinations were okay for many years. What absolute hypocrites!

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Jehovah's Witnesses on vaccination (let's remember)

by opusdei1972 in

this a excerpt from the article "the sacredness of human blood (why vaccination is unscriptural)", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 294.. .

the following is an excerpt from the article: "vaccination---why not?

", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 298.. .

opusdei1972

Interestingly, one quote says:

"All reasonable minds must conclude that it was not the eating of blood that God objected to, but bringing the blood of the beast in contact with the blood of man"

Is not a mess ??

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Jehovah's Witnesses on vaccination (let's remember)

by opusdei1972 in

this a excerpt from the article "the sacredness of human blood (why vaccination is unscriptural)", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 294.. .

the following is an excerpt from the article: "vaccination---why not?

", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 298.. .

opusdei1972

In the same way that some Witnesses die for rejecting blood transfusions on supposed scriptural basis, witnesses in the past believed that vaccination was a sin on scriptural basis too. But now, vaccination is no longer an issue for the witnesses. They accept it. What absurd religion !!!

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Jehovah's Witnesses on vaccination (let's remember)

by opusdei1972 in

this a excerpt from the article "the sacredness of human blood (why vaccination is unscriptural)", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 294.. .

the following is an excerpt from the article: "vaccination---why not?

", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 298.. .

opusdei1972

This a excerpt from the article "The Sacredness of Human Blood (why vaccination is unscriptural)", The Golden Age, February 4, 1931, page 294.

The following is an excerpt from the article: "Vaccination---Why not?", The Golden Age, February 4, 1931, page 298.

And the following is the testimony of a Jehovah's witness, Mrs Braught, who was in Court for refusing to send her children to school, on account of the issue of vaccination. This was published in the Golden Age, 1935, April 24, page 471.

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Where would we go, is the question

by Pistoff in

what better place, what better world can be offered, is the question tossed at those who have left.. what if it is just the same place, without taking everything we hear at the kingdom hall as gospel?.

can we just take with a grain of salt the things we know deep down are without basis?.

it is the same place, with the same friends, but without the drama of feeling that you can never do enough, that you were born sinful.. a faith that does not ask you to treat your family as disposable; a place that does not kick people to the curb when they need their family the most; a faith that lets you trust your heart, not ignore it.. can we just stay in the same place, and realize that we do not have to sacrifice our childrens lives by denying them blood if desperately needed?

opusdei1972

For those who believe in Christ, there is no exclusive physical place for worshipping God. Two or more met in the name of Christ are sufficient. Furthermore, there is no place in the New Testament which demands you to use the name "Jehovah". Early christians did not use the name YHWH.

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Questions for those who believe in the Watchtower Blood Policy

by Lee Elder in

new article on ajwrb:.

http://ajwrb.org/medicine/questions-for-those-who-believe-in-the-watcthower-blood-policy.

lee.

opusdei1972

Marvin Shilmer Hi Marvin, you disappeared a long time ago. How are you?

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The Truth About The Truth goes way way way back before Watchtower?

by Island Man in

here's an interesting excerpt from forged by bart ehrman (pay particular attention to the last sentence):.

"a number of the books of the new testament were disputed already in early christianity, among the christian scholars of the second to the fourth centuries, who were arguing over which books should be included in scripture.. the most famous instance is the book of revelation.

a third-century christian scholar of alexandria, egypt, named dionysius, argued that the book was not actually written by jesuss disciple john, the son of zebedee.

opusdei1972

Apognophos The fact is that in Rev. 7:15 the great crowd is seen in the sanctuary of the temple (greek naos), which is in heaven (Rev. 11:19). So, the Society is making a big mistake by telling to the Witnesses that most of them belong to the great crowd who will be in an earthly paradise.

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The Truth About The Truth goes way way way back before Watchtower?

by Island Man in

here's an interesting excerpt from forged by bart ehrman (pay particular attention to the last sentence):.

"a number of the books of the new testament were disputed already in early christianity, among the christian scholars of the second to the fourth centuries, who were arguing over which books should be included in scripture.. the most famous instance is the book of revelation.

a third-century christian scholar of alexandria, egypt, named dionysius, argued that the book was not actually written by jesuss disciple john, the son of zebedee.

opusdei1972

Interestingly, the Muratorian Canon of the second century omitted the book of Revelation. On the other hand we have this verse:

The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. (Rev 17:8)

If the above is a reference of the legend of Nero redivivus it would mean that this book is not inspired.

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The Pope countermands Jesus Own Command to preach

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

most xjws likely have matthew 28:19,20 burned into their brains, if indeed they ahve brains left after years of boring meetings.. but, in case you have forgotten the text, it says:.

go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the father, and of the son, and of the holy ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever i have commanded you: and, lo, i am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.

happiness, according to the wts would be yours if you loving prreached the message to endless shuit doors and minds.. but, according to the pope:.

opusdei1972

The Watchtower says that those who reject the Society's proclamation will be destroyed if they don't repent before Armaggedon.

"Until the great tribulation begins, people still have time to change their thinking"

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013530