Posts by opusdei1972

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Pedophiles repeatedly promoted to positions of authority in Jehovah’s Witness church royal commission told

by stuckinamovement in

wow.

things are heating up in australia.

what a headline.. http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/paedophiles-repeatedly-promoted-to-positions-of-authority-in-jehovahs-witness-church-royal-commission-told/story-fnii5s3x-1227458483269.

opusdei1972

Very interesting. Developed countries like Australia are noting the evil nature of the Watchtower Society.

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If disfellowshipping so important why is it not mentioned one time in the bible teach book

by poopie in

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if it is what page.

opusdei1972

This is a trap. The Organization does not want to show its true face quickly, but after the baptism.

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"Don't you love Jehovah anymore then ?"

by Phizzy in

mrs phizzy ran into a jw lady from a neighbouring congo who has known us since we were teenagers, before we married, sometime in the pleistocene era lol.. during the conversation said lady asked if mrs phizzy was going to the r.c, to which mrs phizzy replied, "oh you haven't heard, we no longer go to meetings".. the jw lady then came back with the question in the thread title, which mrs phizzy handled well.. the point of this is though, what a god-awful, stupid, cult-minded question to ask !.

did she think we woke up one morning and thought "we don't love god anymore" ??

would that happen to anyone ?.

opusdei1972

That kind of emotional trap is what the organization uses to enslave their members. So, if you leave the organization your are abandoning Jehovah. This is not a rational argument, but an emotional trap to attenuate the lies of this religion.

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2001 Symposium on "Problems of Bloodless Surgery" in Moscow - Sherri Ozawa explains the HLC and bloodless medicine clinics

by OrphanCrow in

a few years ago, prior to researching the field of "bloodless medicine", i was under the mistaken impression that bloodless surgery was a field of medicine that sat "outside" of the watchtower influence and operated as a part of mainstream medicine.

since that time, i have discovered that "bloodless medicine" has been founded and maintained by the watchtower society itself.

bloodless medicine is the watchtower society - it has been organized by people who have been trained by the wts and therefore, the bloodless industry is controlled by the wts.

opusdei1972

I can't read Russian language, however I still hear about witnesses dying on account of refusing a blood transfusion, so I doubt that currently "bloodless Surgery" can save a person with a great loss of blood.

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Ray Franz and You.

by John Aquila in

if ray franz would have kept his mouth shut and not disfellowshipped, and remained part of the governing body how many of us ex-jw would still be trapped in the cult?.

would we have come this far?.

opusdei1972

I strongly recommend the books of Ray. It will be difficult to find another GB member following this path of honesty.

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Ray Franz and You.

by John Aquila in

if ray franz would have kept his mouth shut and not disfellowshipped, and remained part of the governing body how many of us ex-jw would still be trapped in the cult?.

would we have come this far?.

opusdei1972

In my case, when I read "Crisis of Conscience" for the first time I was a fanatical Witness Apologist. So, though I admitted to myself that Ray told some truths, I did not want to leave the organization, because I wanted to believe that witnesses are the only ones who want to follow the Bible teachings. In fact, the book which shocked my faith in the organization was "Apocalypse Delayed" by James Penton. This book motivated my research in the history of the organization, so by this I could discover that Rutherford was an evil man. So I went back to "Crisis of Conscience" and I had to admit that Ray was totally right. Then I read "In the Search of the Christian Freedom", then other books like these. I think that the force of the beginning of internet was stronger than "Crisis of Conscience". At least, in latin countries, the books of Ray are not available, so, without internet, many in the latin world would still ignore TTATT.

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LET'S EXPLORE A LITTLE THOUGHT EXPERIMENT

by TerryWalstrom in

over here on the left we have a governing body which is inspired directly by jehovah to receive his instructions for how to worship and interpret the bible accurately.. on the other hand, on the right we have a governing body which isn't inspired nor directed by jehovah, but which is making the best guesses they can make as mere humans as to proper worship and bible interpretation.. here is our thought experiment.. what differences would we see or would have seen in the last 100 years of jw teaching in each instance, .

and how would they differ?.

opusdei1972

If they were sincere, they would admit that the Gospels themselves prove that Jesus was a false prophet, because he prophesied that his generation would not pass until his coming in power.

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How dishonest was the Apostle Paul?

by opusdei1972 in

may be some of you will be shocked by this question.

however, when i was studying the bible with critical eyes i detected that paul ( or saul of tarsus) misquoted the hebrew bible in order to get false support for his arguments.

of course, this tricky kind of use of the "scriptures" was not only used by him, but others, like the author of the gospel of matthew got unsupported doctrines misquoting verses.

opusdei1972

Caleb:

Well, if Marcion did it, so Justin, Irenaeus and Tertullian were deceived by him, because they quoted some of those verses in their apologetic works. Of course, no one knows what happened. But it seems to me that some letters of Paul were already accepted in "orthodox" Christian circles at the end of the first century. For instance, Polycarp knew the letter of Philippians and he lived in the same generation of Marcion. Indeed, as you noted, Paul or whoever who corrupted his text shows gnostic principles. ...Whatever, at the second half of the second century these letters took their final form, so, many ones were deceived. When I started to admit that there were contradictions in the NT I was shocked.

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How dishonest was the Apostle Paul?

by opusdei1972 in

may be some of you will be shocked by this question.

however, when i was studying the bible with critical eyes i detected that paul ( or saul of tarsus) misquoted the hebrew bible in order to get false support for his arguments.

of course, this tricky kind of use of the "scriptures" was not only used by him, but others, like the author of the gospel of matthew got unsupported doctrines misquoting verses.

opusdei1972

So, Paul did not think that his message was inferior to those who knew Jesus face to face, because he thought that his interpretation of the Scriptures came from above, so he believed that his reading of the OT was a spiritual reading that could not be discerned by "common people":

This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words (1 Cor. 2:13)

So, I think that these words motivated the gnostic views at the end of the first century.

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How dishonest was the Apostle Paul?

by opusdei1972 in

may be some of you will be shocked by this question.

however, when i was studying the bible with critical eyes i detected that paul ( or saul of tarsus) misquoted the hebrew bible in order to get false support for his arguments.

of course, this tricky kind of use of the "scriptures" was not only used by him, but others, like the author of the gospel of matthew got unsupported doctrines misquoting verses.

opusdei1972

Caleb:

Paul seemed to believe that he had an special insight in reading the scriptures:

we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. (1 Cor. 2:7)

So, he also felt to be in a privileged spiritual status in comparison to those who were close to Jesus:

As for those who were held in high esteem – whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favouritism – they added nothing to my message. (Galatians 2:6)