The Prophecies were for the 1st century. The Gospel was originally for Natural Israel byt they rejected Messiah even though they knew from the scriptures he was coming. But this opened the way for us gentiles to become heirs of the promise. The electwerethe 1st centruy faithful ones who Messiah promised he would return for them and he did.It was a spiritual event.Just as all things are.Those 1st centruy one srule with him in heaven as kings and priests. The Holy SPirit never elft earth after pentecost itremains throughout the generations leading people to Christ.He dwells within ALL people though most do not recongise it yet. But Christ in you and everyone is is the mystery of the ages, he dwells in everyone. We all have the choice still when he reveals himself to each perosn whether to coem after him or not. You cannot find him in a church, God does not dwell in man made buildings or thingsmade of bricks and mortar, he dwells within you all.
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Early christians : Were they chosen ?, if so, what about those who were not?
by opusdei1972 init is a hard task to understand what christ and early christians had in mind.
but i noted that in the gospels appears the word "elect" (greek eklektos).
it seems that early christians thought that they were chosen by god.
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Jesus was a false prophet?
by opusdei1972 inand he said to them, "i tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of god come with power.
(mark 9:1).
when you are persecuted in one place, flee to another.
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The Mystery of God is being revealed to ALL. The unveiling is taking place as all those layers are stripped away. That mystery is Christ dwells in ALL
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Jesus was a false prophet?
by opusdei1972 inand he said to them, "i tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of god come with power.
(mark 9:1).
when you are persecuted in one place, flee to another.
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Yes he did gather his elect .What is written is mostly hyperbole symbolic metaphor languagh that people used in those days to describe things.He did come back for them as he promised. They rule with him in hevaen and have done since then.The work ofthe Holy SPirit goes on drwaing all men back to God. Its still free will to accept him or not when he calls on us. Most reject him. Many dont and he dwells within as King, which has done through all the generations since the 1st century. What is going to happen is that the Lord will be made manifest, a reveiling or unveiling will take place, itall happens withing EVERY person. Beleivers and unbelievers. It is not dont outwardly. He doe snot dwell in man made temples.Your body is his temple not anything made of bricks and mortar. We cna keep on resisting him through pride or for the love of thie thingsof this world.But the true joy is being one with him, him in us, us in him. This is the Mystery of the ages.Christ is in us. Peace and Love
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Jesus was a false prophet?
by opusdei1972 inand he said to them, "i tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of god come with power.
(mark 9:1).
when you are persecuted in one place, flee to another.
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There was only one tribulation.He was talking to those who were standing in front of him. He also said it was one time only and would NEVER be repeated. The tribulation was what the 1st century followers witnessed
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Jesus was a false prophet?
by opusdei1972 inand he said to them, "i tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of god come with power.
(mark 9:1).
when you are persecuted in one place, flee to another.
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The end did come he was talking about the destruction of jerusalem and the tmeple which in fact did happen in 7o ad. You havebeen misled by all the churches. He did coem to collect his elect. Itwas spiritual event just as Christ has been here for over 2000 years he dwells within all
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just what am I supposed to believe now??
by purrpurr inwhile i'm glad i found this site, it has also crumbled to bits everything i've believed in my whole life.
i feel like the certainty, magic and wonder has gone out of my life.
this has left a huge hole in my soul.
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If you stillbeleive in JesusChrist as yoursaviour. Then seek him alone. The true church cannot be seen, it is not made with bricks or mortar or by human hands. You and i are the church. It is a spiritual arrangement and always has been since the 1st century. The presence of the Lord has always been here also. Earthly visible churches and organisations are counterfeit kingdoms, because God does not dwell in mad made temples.YOU are the temple for God, he will come and dwell within you in fact he already does but the mental,emotional and spiritual conditioning by man has palce layers upon layers inyou to hide the truth, which the Lord is stripping away bit by bit to reveal himself. The churches do not teach you this becasue it means we do not need to be emotionally attached to any mans teachings. Messiah himself will reveal himself in you and teach you all things.You will see things in a completley different way as bit by bit he is revealed .Eventually we will grow into the fullness of him. If we want it. There is no death nor law nor judgement in the spirit.SO the sons and daughters are set free from those things to walk in spirit and truth, love and mercy .Many people will oppose this. Why ? Because they are still attachedto the written word, which does not give live it only testifies about Christ. What gives life is The Living word Jesus Christ in you.
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Jesus 1000 years and Satan's 1000 years in the abyss
by berrygerry inthe thread about satan in the abyss for 1000 years prompts a question.. jesus will rule for 1000 years.. jesus began ruling in 1914, which means his 1000 year reign will end in 2914.. satan will be abyssed for 1000 years.. if the end comes in 2020, satan will be abyssed in 2020, and then released in 3020.. what happens between 2914 and 3020?.
honest question..
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Russelwas 2000 yearstoo late the end camein the1st century. The Messiah has been ruling for 2000 years. The Kingdom is here already in the hearts of those who love Jesus. The revealing of Christ or coming of Christ takes place in everygeneration since.The written testimony provides the confirmation of him living in us The 1000 year rule is symbolic of a very long period of time. The bible used lots of hyperbole, symbolic metaphors to describe things
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No in fact the opposite. I discovered The Kingdom within me and Jesus Christ. He was there all the time. When you move on from the written testimony of Jesus ( the bible) which does not give life but onto the living word (jesus himself) everythign becomes abundantly clear
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some thing to consider for bible believers
by Crazyguy inthe oldest in tact bible found is the codex voronicus, (miss spelled) and the oldest writings ever found were the greek septuagint written by jews in alexandria.
both of these collections of writings included the apocryphal and other writings like chapters and other verses of daniel not included in the jw bible.
so the question one must ask, is if your a bible believer how can you just throw out these writings, because reading these additional writings will change your understanding of what you have learned?.
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I would not worry about it . The written word is just a testimony about Jesus . The living word is what is true. That living word is inside you of which the Holy SPiirt will testify to . Him in us and us in him. He himself will teach you all truth.
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JW website merchadise
by juliew inso my step daughter came back from their international convention this weekend wearing jw.org bracelets and pins.
including a pin with a picture of caleb and another cartoon character girl from the jw website.
this makes me so sick.
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Seems the fruitage of all those studies coming to pass. Reverting to symbolism . Caleb meaning one who represents judah, is false and a deception. It should be The Messiah who is promoted