Posts by apostrate

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Suggestion: Don't Accept Everyone's Opinion Here

by minimus in

jw
friends

everyone has an opinion on things.

oftentimes, we ask for help or want the view of the board in a matter.

but just remember, the comments are simply personal views.

apostrate

cofty,

by the way, here in Texas I believe it is 13 degrees outside, but what's the wind chill factor??

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JW FAMOUS CLICHE SAYINGS

by strymeckirules in

what saying made it all around the country?.

the ones that were passed around, word of mouth.. for example.

"donations basis proves jehovah is behind the work!".

Okay, I admit it's not exactly a cliche, but that is what my former boss, an elder in good standing (RIP) used to say out on the job when I worked for him. I heard it many times, so it seems like a cliche to me!

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Suggestion: Don't Accept Everyone's Opinion Here

by minimus in

jw
friends

everyone has an opinion on things.

oftentimes, we ask for help or want the view of the board in a matter.

but just remember, the comments are simply personal views.

apostrate

Ucantnome,

But "sisters" must go out in field service in freezing temperatures with their bare legs exposed. The Bible doesn't say a thing about how one should dress when "witnessing", in fact, the Bible doesn't say a lot of things, but that's another topic!

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Suggestion: Don't Accept Everyone's Opinion Here

by minimus in

jw
friends

everyone has an opinion on things.

oftentimes, we ask for help or want the view of the board in a matter.

but just remember, the comments are simply personal views.

apostrate

cofty,

I'm not disagreeing with you, but regardless of this other persons opinion, I couldn't help but feeling kind of sorry for him. People weren't holding back with derogatory remarks, even if he did bring it upon himself. I suppose I'm just commenting about "tact".

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Suggestion: Don't Accept Everyone's Opinion Here

by minimus in

jw
friends

everyone has an opinion on things.

oftentimes, we ask for help or want the view of the board in a matter.

but just remember, the comments are simply personal views.

apostrate

Lat night I read a post by someone giving his opinion on evolution. Apparently, while no longer a JW he still does not believe in evolution. Apparently, many others who are no longer JW's DO believe in evolution now. But the pro-evolutionists were just ripping this guy. I don't care what anyone believes regarding evolution and most other subjects, but do they have to resort to name calling, bullying, and intellectual intimidation?

This wasn't the only post where I've seen this behavior displayed. Have we learned nothing from all the many years trapped inside the cult known as The Watchtower???

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A spiritual man does not wear colourful socks.

by LogCon in

jw
friends

we encourage all to be examples to the flock.. jesus stated, as recorded in matt 5:29 .

' if, now, your right eye is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you.+ for it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be pitched into gehenna'.. we certainly do not want to stumble or, worse yet, be a stumbling block to the congregation.

evidently jesus was stating a principle here in matthew that he intended true christians to apply to all aspects of their lives and not just their eyes.

apostrate

sparky1,

Back in the 70's a CO started a schism in a congregation in a suburb of Dallas, TX because he counciled some of the elders, telling them that cowboy boots were not appropriate for elders (or any other males) to wear to the KH. Nevermind that some of the cowboy boots in question cost more than some of the fancy allowable shoes that some brothers wore.

There was nothing outlandish about the cowboy boots that some brothers wore. I hadn't even noticed the boots because I never paid attention to peoples feet!

Pant suits on the sisters was also forbidden, but let me tell you, for some sisters, hiding their legs with pant suits was more of a blessing than an abomination!

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Why H.W. Bush can't be a MS -- check his socks

by FatFreek 2005 in

now that the jws have entered the world of fashion law enforcement we need to be on guard against certain dangerous associates.. .

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len miller.

apostrate

Wow! Gay conservatives!!

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The Emperor with No Clothes On Decries Tight Pants.

by steve2 in

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friends

for a religious group that has become more and more reader's digest vapid across recent decades, whose ability to defend its doctrines and policies depends on punishing independent thinking and whose meetings are sleep inducing snooze-fests, a talk about sexy clothes is about as desperately arousing as it can get without unzipping one's pants.. but among those who know the religious organization behind tony morris's attention-grabbing address to the faithful, this is anything but surprising.

when you've harped on for long, unforgiving decades about the nearness of the end, whilst simultaneously shoring up treasures on earth - some ear-marked for completion in 2017 - expect even your more loyal followers to shuffle their tired, bedraggled feet and barely stifle forceful yawns.

hell, they may even contemplate tighter fitting clothes because all else is miserably bland - except for the razzle-dazzle of an alluring, colorful world intent on arousing you out of your sad slumber.. so these self-appointed emperors or governing body member focus on anything that threatens a straying spirit.

apostrate

Way, way back in a time called the 70's, I used to dress in a most unconventional fashion when attending KH meetings, much to the dismay of all the other JW's. I was in my teens then, and I figured as long as I don't have a part on the platform, then why should I wear an uncomfortable suit and tie just to fit in with the crowd. I'm not talking just colored socks and tight trousers either! I wore paisley print trousers and lightning bolt tennis shoes (really!!)

I had my own crisis of conscience. One part of me wanted to go to the meetings and be liked by everyone. But, there was another part of me that wanted desperately to hang on to some shred of individuality.

I am in my 60's now and, believe me, I dress very conservatively, but there are people, some relatives, who still refer to me as that guy who dresses so weird! Of course, I quit attending meetings years ago, so I don't have that same internal conflict going on within.

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Christianity vs. Churchianity/Spiritual Buffets

by apostrate in

from zion's watch tower, september, 1883:.

"we are living in an age of shams and counterfeits.

satan seems to have abandoned the hope of crushing out the christian church by a process of undisguised hostility, and now seeks to destroy her efficiency by stealthily draining off her vitality, and robbing her of every supernatural element.

apostrate

From Zion's Watch Tower, September, 1883:

"We are living in an age of shams and counterfeits. Satan seems to have abandoned the hope of crushing out the Christian Church by a process of undisguised hostility, and now seeks to destroy her efficiency by stealthily draining off her vitality, and robbing her of every supernatural element. He "transforms himself into an angel of light," and often assumes to be the special friend and guardian of the Church. Craftily he infuses his deadly virus and inculcates his plausible philosophy, until the moral perception is obscured, the conscience is distorted, and policy runs nearly the whole ecclesiastical machinery."

WOW! Sound familiar?? But wait, listen to this, from the same article:

"Much of the current worship is done by proxy. Lazy religionists surrender their sacred rights to others. They take it for granted that the preacher is on the right track, and readily swallow whatever may be doled out from the pulpit, without using their own brains in searching for the hidden treasures of truth."

Contrast what was printed then, by Jehovahs Faithful and Discreet Slave, with what they are telling their people today. Here is what I heard one elder teach from the platform some ten years ago, and his voice was raised and he was as animated as an old time Baptist preacher:

"WE ARE NOT A BUFFET!!! YOU DO NOT GET TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU WISH TO BELIEVE! YOU WILL BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT WE TELL YOU!!"

And I know that it wasn't just this elders opinion because I heard others from other congregations repeating these same sentiments!

Yes, the Watchtower is not a buffet, I agree. And, it is not a restaurant that I choose to dine at!!!

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Is the WTS effectively 'pimping out' sisters?

by Simon in

i can't remember the topic with the discussion about the talk where they suggested that sisters should only consider ministerial servants as potential marriage partners but think about the implications more.. are they trying to use the potential affections of sisters to enourage brothers to do more and work harder?.

isn't this a form of 'pimping out' the sisters by limiting their attention to the people contributing to them?.

it seems to cross a line to me but i guess it's not vastly different to "only marry another jw".. what do you think?.

apostrate

This is a bit of Deja Vu for me. Maybe the GB didn't come out and say so back in the day, in as many words, but that idea of marrying a MS or better was very much prevalent back in the 70's.

And I personally knew several HOT sisters who married nerdy guys just because of their position at the KH.

It's a recycled idea.