with the upcoming elections, the campaigns and political rhetoric are ramping up.
(ramping up is an understatement lol) .
i remember a few years ago, gb member brother herd mentioned during one of his talks that several witnesses were either reproved or disfellowshipped for voting for a certain presidential candidate who won...twice.
The whole thing got the "conscience"(shimmy-shammy) treatment in the mid-90s. Flock book and questions from the readers. No idea why. Still the publisher would not be "exemplary".
Publicly stating the fact or joining a political group = disassociation. (USA).
hi friends ,.
is it just me or do others on this forum like to know where posters are from ?
what country state or region you are from ?
Northern California
fyi.
this showed up on my google feed.
i couldn't find an earlier story in the search box.
Hard to know what to believe. As a kid I really hated the JW belief of "Theocratic strategy"- AKA- Lies. At Bethel, I found the whole super-secret "need to know" system about jobs..weird...and actually deceptive. I actually traveled to meetings and ate eat meals with a brother for months before he finally admitted he was a Zone overseer. (After trying to remember if I had ever told him any "edgy jokes"..I then thought it was weird.) As an elder, I found the wishy-washy non-answer "answers" from the service desk disingenuous to say the least...especially on the subjects of domestic violence and child molesting. I don't even have to get into what happens if you try to get a straight answer from HQ if you ask for your $$ LOAN to be re-payed. Truth...what is Truth....as far as Watchtower is concerned.
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this showed up on my google feed.
i couldn't find an earlier story in the search box.
Not as easy to verify in NYC, as in most states. There are many reasons to keep OBITs out of the paper. Wills, estates, legal process...until one can get a handle on the estate and find a replacement officer. Hard to do during this shutdown, especially in NYC...most Courthouses are closed. Watchtower possibly has a multitude of financial reasons to delay, not to mention lots of elderly donors who this might shakeup. $50 and a good reason will get a cert. https://www.health.ny.gov/vital_records/death.htm
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this showed up on my google feed.
i couldn't find an earlier story in the search box.
It looks like a verified news source with a date and cause of death to me. The position and job were correct. What source shows he is alive still?
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this showed up on my google feed.
i couldn't find an earlier story in the search box.
FYI. This showed up on my google feed. I couldn't find an earlier story in the search box. I never met him at Bethel back in the day. Did anyone know him personally? Any feedback from the rank and file? The President of The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, Robert Ciranko, has died of Covid-19 in New York, the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses has announced.
The President of The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, Robert Ciranko, has died of Covid-19 in New York, the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses has announced.
Twelve other persons who had contact with Ciranko have been quarantined, tested and are awaiting results.
Robert Ciranko, 73, who was the president of Jehovah’s Witnesses from 2014 took the coronavirus test after been hospitalized for pneumonia. “He died due to complications of pneumonia, an underlying health condition”, a statement to the organization’s branch offices said. https://nycinews.com/jehovahs-witnesses-president/?fbclid=IwAR1JJ6i7S7LyPJIl7k-Ebk4j7TgUKBstu-6qwJvSSRr8Zaprg-Pztl1s1Tc&doing_wp_cron=1590376218.3550829887390136718750
robert ciranko has been a "helper" of the governing body in the writing department.. don adams (born 1925, presumably 91 years old now) has been president of the wtbts since 2000. .
however, in recent official posts (april 2016), robert ciranko is identified as "president of the watch tower".
does anybody know what happened and if this is an official change?.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/politics/coronavirus-jehovahs-witnesses.html.
the pandemic has put a stop to the activities of one of the nation’s most visible religious groups, jehovah’s witnesses.. read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/politics/coronavirus-jehovahs-witnesses.html.
Hi Barb! Yes, we saw that Sunday. Nice story. I felt sorry for the Sister, like so many lonely JWs I have known over the years. Waiting, waiting , waiting...
Why do you need to make the same mistake?
I find Mormans wacky, but they would at least be good to hit up for some decent toilet paper this year. :)
there is an allegation floating around saying he assaulted one of his female staffers .
most mainstream media do not report on this claim.
they either don’t believe it or don’t want to believe it.. funny how if it were brett kavanaugh or donald trump, they would be all over it.
I watched the initial interview on the far left PBS show "Democracy now!". I have read some of her statements. Very believable. Says creepy Joe slid his hand up her dress and penetrated her with his finger. Claims she filed the written complaint contemporaneously. She was constructively fired and filed more paperwork. If true there should be a paper trail and she would have a decent case to ruin him.
With the major players all over 75, and COVID19 running amuck..who knows what will happen in November?
