may 2023 bring you happiness health and love!.
what are you thinking will happen in 2023....positive or otherwise?.
Cheers to all and hoping 2023 is a better year. As far as JWs go I doubt Watchtower will be honest about anything. Numbers and stats will be imaginary as they have been for years.
I expect real JW attendance will continue to decline, as will donations. I expect more members will fade.
I expect the Ukraine war to slog on unless Putin is taken out by age or .......
I expect the economy to be disappointing.
I expect to be another year older...and still overweight. :)
mark writes.
"if a person accepts a blood transfusion, the jehovah’s witness elders are required to “investigate” to see if the person is sorry for “cowardly” saving their life.
if the person doesnt beg and grovel to the elders for allowing the doctor to save their life (or that of their child) then the elders can take this as a sign that he/she has disassociated from the congregation - and tell the congregation to start shunning them.. if someone willingly takes blood, perhaps because of being under extreme pressure, the committee should obtain the facts and determine the individual’s attitude.
The last disfellowshipping I personally remember for Blood transfusions was in the early 80s. A very sweet elderly couple was disfellowshipped for the husband taking blood and the wife for keeping it secret. They kept them out for years and they died disfellowshipped. Such love...not.
wow.
while not a pew survey, i found these to be surprising results.
" a recent yougov poll explores americans' attitudes toward 35 religious groups, organizations, and belief systems.
Growing up in the Borg our PO/congregation Servant would weekly talk about not bringing reproach on Jehovah's name. We have joined our neighborhood watch "nextdoor" email chain, and I am amazed at how many of the retirees in the neighborhood WARN the neighbors when they believe JWs are in the neighborhood in service. You would think a carload of child molesters were roaming the streets.
Watchtower truly HAS made "Jehovah's name known"...just not in a good way.
i recently viewed the debutante event of my greatniece.. a beautiful ceremony, of course she was not a jw.. my grand daughters (jws), i think about what would.
be wrong if they participated in such a event.
introduction to society.. .
If you can afford it...who cares? Does anyone REALLY believe that a supreme being that created multiple galaxies cares that some young earth women dress up and have a party? :)
curious.
time goes by so fast.
who remembers 1975, the ray franz incident, the generation change in 1995, the blood fractions, alternative service, participation in ochr, aid afrique, the historical research by james pellechia, jolene chu and johannes stephan wrobel?
As soon as 1976 Watchtower was into damage control mode. Talks and articles denied they made a false prophecy. The fact that the publications were still around with the false prophesy in print made matters worse...false prophecy and outright lies compounded the issue. Many left in the late 70s. The early Truth book, magazines, KMs and Red "Life Everlasting" book memorialized their blunders.
curious.
time goes by so fast.
who remembers 1975, the ray franz incident, the generation change in 1995, the blood fractions, alternative service, participation in ochr, aid afrique, the historical research by james pellechia, jolene chu and johannes stephan wrobel?
The 1975 hoopla that began in the 60s...who could forget it! I knew more than a few Elders who sold homes and retired early to "pioneer" because Armageddon was coming any day. Those Elders squandered their equity and savings in their 50s and worked into their 70s, only to die years later in poverty.
I was in Bethel in the late 70s. Ray Franz and Cynthia were kind, hospitable, and sincere people who got a raw deal and were lied about by many "loving" JWs.
i got a message that my password on this site has been part of a leakage.
is this known?
where can i change my password?.
I got the same notification from my identity theft program. I only use a password here that I use for my newspapers. So Mr/Mrs hacker is welcome to read the NY Times and JWN. :)
i've seen little bites about this for over a year.
i understand that somewhere there is a video in which a woman named pat garza publicly accuses wts governing body member ted jaracz of having molested her as a child.
does anyone have this video?
I knew Ted at Bethel. My opinion of him was that he was an aloof Ass, but I liked his wife.
My father-in-law GAVE him $10,000 in the 60s to buy a trailer, so he was nice to his benefactor.
Ted would stay with family members in the 60s when he was a CO. I never heard a word about the child molesting accusations. However, because of the family relationships and gifts, I asked him to intercede on behalf of my JW mother-in-law, a widow, who could not get watchtower to return a $20,000+ loan she had made them. (She needed the money for medical expenses). Ted would not even answer the phone or my letters to help the widow of the man who had GIVEN him $10,000. That told me everything I needed to know about the guy.
wow.
while not a pew survey, i found these to be surprising results.
" a recent yougov poll explores americans' attitudes toward 35 religious groups, organizations, and belief systems.
Wow. While not a PEW survey, I found these to be surprising results. " A recent YouGov poll explores Americans' attitudes toward 35 religious groups, organizations, and belief systems. Belief systems that encompass the largest shares of Americans — including Christianity, Catholicism, and Protestantism — are among the ones the most Americans view favorably. Viewed least favorably are Satanism and Scientology.
The poll asked 1,000 respondents whether they viewed a random sample of 17 of the 35 religions or groups very favorably, somewhat favorably, neither favorably nor unfavorably, somewhat unfavorably, or very unfavorably; respondents also could select "not sure" instead of any of these. To produce a net score for each religion or group, we subtracted the share who said they view each one unfavorably from the share who said they view it favorably." https://today.yougov.com/topics/society/articles-reports/2022/12/23/americans-views-religious-groups-yougov-poll?fbclid=IwAR2tG9pKU2YEB9EaAqtRzO7H6b1GVZm7vcYgDxkDA4sUV0-FXY4fXWDjy40
mark writes.
"if a person accepts a blood transfusion, the jehovah’s witness elders are required to “investigate” to see if the person is sorry for “cowardly” saving their life.
if the person doesnt beg and grovel to the elders for allowing the doctor to save their life (or that of their child) then the elders can take this as a sign that he/she has disassociated from the congregation - and tell the congregation to start shunning them.. if someone willingly takes blood, perhaps because of being under extreme pressure, the committee should obtain the facts and determine the individual’s attitude.
Of course, there are LOTS of JWs who work in insurance or at hospitals or medical offices transcribing medical records, and coding for insurance billing, so I imagine even a discrete JW could be outed.
Years ago a few sisters who worked for Stanford Medical routinely & secretly informed Elders about any JWs who took blood, had abortions, had STDs, smoked, and single sisters on birth control, etc, etc. The "Guilty" never met their accusers or had any idea how the elders found out.
