mass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
7:30 PST. Lots of unanswered questions. I just read the paper, and this is the New York Times story for this morning.
In years past I have known of more than a few people to react angrily when reproved or disfellowshiped...especially when issues of mental illness are not taken into consideration and kindness is not shown by elders.
hey.
does anyone else dread attending (in person or on zoom) the memorial months in advance?.
literally as soon as new year hits, i feel sick and super anxious, and i've realised it's because of the memorial, which i only attend because of family, who kinda tell me the reason they have bad health is cuz i left the jw sevel years ago..
If you are trying to fade....don't go. Stay gone and off the radar.
mass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
Sad news. No one deserves this. I wonder what effect this will have on JWs. Some had the belief they were protected by angels while attending meetings and conventions. Many circuit overseers would talk about JWs who lost their lives BECAUSE they stayed home from a meeting and a disaster like a tornado, civil insurrection, or flood occurred while all the GOOD JWs were at the meeting.
https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/video/pittsburgh-woman-testifies-for-grand-jury-investigation-into-jehovahs-witnesses-and-sexual-abuse/#x.
pittsburgh woman testifies for grand jury investigation into jehovah's witnesses and sexual abuse.
kdka investigator andy sheehan interviewed a woman from pittsburgh who's cooperating with an ongoing state investigation into the jehovah's witness church, testifying before a state grand jury about being sexually assaulted when she was 12 years old and how she says church elders told her she was to blame.mar 6, 2023. .
Thanks, Barbara! We always enjoy your posts!
I find this an important investigation. It is a CRIMINAL investigation of systemic organized criminal activity rather than single "isolated" incidents. Watchtower's standard method of operation of dealing with private law firms by "stall stall stall and appeal appeal appeal" will not serve them as well when dealing with a STATE Attorney General who has already cut her teeth on beating the Catholic Church.
I heard a rumor that Anthony Morris was Ted Jaractz's (sp) "helper" and may have helped craft some of the sex abuse policies at Watchtower that have become a moral, financial, and PR quagmire. Have you heard of this, or any other credible rumors?
this afternoon i drove by an old hall i attended ( barrington illinois) and noticed that it had been sold, it is now an adventist .
church !
now here is my drive-home thinking.. back in the 80's when i attended i was newly married, and had a young child.
Lancelink - this thread got me to reread some of the old Menlo Park KH threads from 10+ years ago. They are a great read for anyone newer to this site. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/199355/menlo-park-ca-usa-kingdom-hall
this afternoon i drove by an old hall i attended ( barrington illinois) and noticed that it had been sold, it is now an adventist .
church !
now here is my drive-home thinking.. back in the 80's when i attended i was newly married, and had a young child.
Last week I looked up Menlo Park, CA. Kingdom Hall on Google Earth. It was sold...not to nearby Facebook Corp., but to a Spanish evangelical church. After all the hoopla and disfellowshipping of the sincere elders who spoke out about the land grab, I wonder how the local publishers feel when they drive by and see "False Religion" using the building they worked so hard on. The Menlo Park Fiasco brought me and my wife to this group and helped us exit.
the jws i know (which admittedly are more liberal than most) are suddenly into prepping to one degree or another.
some have simply assembled "go bags" with basic common sense supplies in case they need to bug out in the event of a natural disaster and others seem to be seriously into it, almost to the degree to which mormons are.
backup generators and a year's supply of food and water).
Yes, it got more extreme in the last 15 years or so. My 80 yr old mom and her sister had "Go bags". My mom couldn't walk one block :) She actually seemed excited about showing people her bag. What I found interesting, is when she was younger she said repeatedly, that "JWs in comparison to Mormons, rely on Jehovah and the angels instead of men and hoarding".
I have always thought having a week's supplies, and prescriptions are a great idea for earthquakes, fires, etc. As a kid, My dad a WW2 veteran, a non-JW (who got stuck on Guadalcanal... undersupplied for months) insisted we always have one-month supplies "just in case".
this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
Jay-toronto Bammm! Great idea. Check surrounding counties where he may have shopped, given talks, or visited family. https://ww2.nycourts.gov/courts/9jd/orange/orangesupreme.shtml
hi,.
im 34/m/idaho looking to chat/cam with female that is also looking for the same.. hit me up, looks forward to meeting you.. chris .
this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
Well, we know Tony and the Mrs didn't attend his meeting today....and he was seen around Bethel the day after the big announcement ( he wasn't escorted off premises to the airport or station as some Bethelites have experienced). He was called "Brother" during the announcement, like during deletions. We KNOW the announcement and the big SEO push are gone today. (Sunday). We KNOW Watchtower is in deep water with a new CRIMINAL investigation by the STATE of Pennsylvania that can pierce through their cheesy corporate veil.
A big lesson was learned by Watchtower in how NOT to handle resigning GB members with Ray Franz. If you hound and persecute people, their friends, and loved ones...they may become indignant...and write books and give interviews. :)
After Ray Franz, the next two GB members got "severance packages", and they went quietly into the night. Perhaps in exchange for signing non-disclosure agreements? (can you imagine the damage a second tell-all book about the GB and "coming -out" would do?)
I imagine Tony will be financially well cared for in exchange for a signed non-disclosure agreement. Tony is a loose cannon and likes to flap his gums...a nightmare for any corporation on thin ice facing major litigation.
